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Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by GuB-42 »

charlieyu1 wrote: post #369
miki123211 wrote: post #344

Other similar cases I'm aware of. * The Scunthorpe problem, AOL didn't let users set their hometown to Scunthorpe because of the "cunt" substring. This is a classic. * Amazon banning sales of Guns N' Roses merch (because guns). * People named Miranda having issues with bank transfers (because of the substring "Iran"). * Some games displaying the nickname "Nasser" as "N* er", suggesting that it is the n word. Alexa no…

Searching for Kinky Kids, a Japanese boy band since 2000s, would trigger a warning about sexualization of children.

To be fair, the band is KinKi Kids, with an "I".

If you insist on searching for "kinky kids" (using quotes) you will find stuff that is closer to what the filter warns you about, still SFW though.

Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by taikahessu »

miki123211 wrote: post #344

Other similar cases I'm aware of. * The Scunthorpe problem, AOL didn't let users set their hometown to Scunthorpe because of the "cunt" substring. This is a classic. * Amazon banning sales of Guns N' Roses merch (because guns). * People named Miranda having issues with bank transfers (because of the substring "Iran"). * Some games displaying the nickname "Nasser" as "N* er", suggesting that it is the n word. Alexa no…

> * Some games displaying the nickname "Nasser" as "N*er", suggesting that it is the n word.

This actually looks like it removes "ass" and not related to n-word? Nevertheless, rather assumptious!

Edit: Oh I misread the post. The new name is even worse... That is rather hilarious and sad at the same time :/

Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by johnnyanmac »

rmbyrro wrote: post #244
pr337h4m wrote: post #57

>That’s right: I teach courses in Python and Pandas. Never mind that the first is a programming language and the second is a library for data analysis in Python. Meta’s AI system noticed that I was talking about Python and Pandas, assumed that I was talking about the animals (not the technology), and banned me. If this is true, that is insanely embarrassing for a company that purports to be a sophisticated programmat…

I think it'd be embarrassing if the tech was making this sort of mistake in a high % of cases. Anecdotally, that's the only account I've read of this kind of error. Not defending Facebook, they ought to deploy humans in the loop. But saying the tech is embarrassing misses how machine learning works. It will always make mistakes, and the kind of mistakes that seem silly from a human perspective. That's because, well,…

>that's the only account I've read of this kind of error.

it's still anecdotal, but the author did mention that they went to FB/LinkedIn and they got a pretty swift answer. If nothing else, it sounds like it wasn't a unique case (or the author has a very tight knit group of tech isntructors).

Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by Naracion »

taikahessu wrote: post #432
miki123211 wrote: post #344

Other similar cases I'm aware of. * The Scunthorpe problem, AOL didn't let users set their hometown to Scunthorpe because of the "cunt" substring. This is a classic. * Amazon banning sales of Guns N' Roses merch (because guns). * People named Miranda having issues with bank transfers (because of the substring "Iran"). * Some games displaying the nickname "Nasser" as "N* er", suggesting that it is the n word. Alexa no…

> * Some games displaying the nickname "Nasser" as "N*er", suggesting that it is the n word. This actually looks like it removes "ass" and not related to n-word? Nevertheless, rather assumptious! Edit: Oh I misread the post. The new name is even worse... That is rather hilarious and sad at the same time :/

My read of it is that's exactly what they were saying. The software replaced "ass" with "*", which made it even worse because now it read like the software was correcting the n-word (and in turn suggesting the person was using the n word).

Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by sdflhasjd »

taikahessu wrote: post #432
miki123211 wrote: post #344

Other similar cases I'm aware of. * The Scunthorpe problem, AOL didn't let users set their hometown to Scunthorpe because of the "cunt" substring. This is a classic. * Amazon banning sales of Guns N' Roses merch (because guns). * People named Miranda having issues with bank transfers (because of the substring "Iran"). * Some games displaying the nickname "Nasser" as "N* er", suggesting that it is the n word. Alexa no…

> * Some games displaying the nickname "Nasser" as "N*er", suggesting that it is the n word. This actually looks like it removes "ass" and not related to n-word? Nevertheless, rather assumptious! Edit: Oh I misread the post. The new name is even worse... That is rather hilarious and sad at the same time :/

I think the suggestion is that to the uninformed, "n*er" or "n***er would appear to be a censored n-word.

Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by kazinator »

plorg wrote: post #425
miki123211 wrote: post #344

Other similar cases I'm aware of. * The Scunthorpe problem, AOL didn't let users set their hometown to Scunthorpe because of the "cunt" substring. This is a classic. * Amazon banning sales of Guns N' Roses merch (because guns). * People named Miranda having issues with bank transfers (because of the substring "Iran"). * Some games displaying the nickname "Nasser" as "N* er", suggesting that it is the n word. Alexa no…

In the early 2000s I couldn't download Winamp 3 at school because the URL contained the string 'mp3'. I'm sure the school did not care about the distinction.

If you couldn't download MP3s, what good would Winamp be? :P

Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by klibertp »

miki123211 wrote: post #423
klibertp wrote: post #347

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=kafka also mentions Apache Kafka before Franz's wiki page. DDG's very existence hinges on NOT profiling you, in any way.

DDG's userbase is also pretty particular, though. Your average DDG user is somewhat privacy conscious, so they probably know much more about tech tan your average Google user, and are a lot more likely to be a programmer than anybody studying literature. If you base your algorithm purely on what results get clicks (but not on who clicks them), you essentially target your average user.

I think it's just the combination of a direct match in a subdomain name, the popular and widely linked to domain name, and lack of any other context in query.

I don't remember whether DDG does anything to the scores it gets from Bing. They might, but then - taking into account how particular its users are... - the poor Franz K. would be on the third page, far behind even a Kafka library for Franz Lisp. (No, that's not a thing. A shame, I know.)

Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by interestica »

miki123211 wrote: post #344

Other similar cases I'm aware of. * The Scunthorpe problem, AOL didn't let users set their hometown to Scunthorpe because of the "cunt" substring. This is a classic. * Amazon banning sales of Guns N' Roses merch (because guns). * People named Miranda having issues with bank transfers (because of the substring "Iran"). * Some games displaying the nickname "Nasser" as "N* er", suggesting that it is the n word. Alexa no…

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/medicine-hat-basketba...

Guy Carbagiale Fuck wasn't allowed to have his name on his jersey.

Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by burnte »

Xixi wrote: post #44

AIs and other opaque processes making decisions are incredibly frustrating. I'm still wondering why my tea-of-the-month business [0] got turned down by Stripe when I incorporated an LLC (technically a Godo Kaisha, as it is incorporated in Japan). It came as a surprise as it was perfectly fine by them for as long as it was a sole proprietorship. Which is why I strongly suspect the rejection came from an AI. At the tim…

My company can't use Stripe to collect payments for our Continuing Medical Education conferences because, as a psychiatry company, we offer in-office-only esketamine therapy to a small subset of patients. No amount of explaining that we do not SELL eskatamine or ANY pharmaceuticals seems to get through to the supposed humans I've talked to at stripe. Nowhere in anything we publish including the website says we sell anything, because we don't. We don't process (and won't/can't) process patient payment though Stripe, because we accept insurance as we are a psychiatry group. All we get back are two types of responses: "We've suspended your account because you sell pharma" and "We're investigating the information you have given us". Mind you all we've been ABLE to give them is email replies because our offers of meetings and documentation to prove what we're saying go ignored.

Stripe is great, but something is going terribly wrong inside the company when it comes to customer vetting.

Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas

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Post by pierat »

dotnet00 wrote: post #354
miki123211 wrote: post #344

Other similar cases I'm aware of. * The Scunthorpe problem, AOL didn't let users set their hometown to Scunthorpe because of the "cunt" substring. This is a classic. * Amazon banning sales of Guns N' Roses merch (because guns). * People named Miranda having issues with bank transfers (because of the substring "Iran"). * Some games displaying the nickname "Nasser" as "N* er", suggesting that it is the n word. Alexa no…

This reminds me of middle school while I was temporarily in a country with heavily censored internet, where, I couldn't even search for info about sexual reproduction in plants for an assignment without a VPN because they filtered on "sex". So while I couldn't find info on actually innocent topics, it had been trivial to play around with search terms to find porn that the filter couldn't catch.

> temporarily in a country with heavily censored internet

So, the USA huh?

For "children" (read: under 18), schools are some of the most despotic, censorious, and anti-democratic institution we have, and we send young humans from 6-18 through this meatgrinder.

During health class, our teacher was unable to see anything about "breast cancer", even though various cancers were in the discussion topic. Didn't matter. "Breast" is a evil horrible sexualized word that we must never allow anybody ever see... Even though you're legal to consent to sex at 16 in most states, and 17 in the rest.

Even the community college had the same blocks on it as the local high school. By definition, people who attend are 18+ , and yet treated like 3rd graders.

It may not be as censored on your own connection (cell, cable, fiber, etc), but this country absolutely does heavily censor, and they censor humans when most vulnerable and under state compulsion to attend.

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