Title is misleading. They weren't banned because they "teach Python. " but because Meta has faulty algorithms.
I'd say that both are true.
Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas
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Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas
#192Earlier quoted context omitted.
And some of these companies pride themselves as AI technology pioneers. Yet it seems their automated systems in this case are simply doing keyword matching. Mind-boggling!
Another sad anecdote: A bank in Finland suspended an account for a text in free-form message field of a bank transfer. The message was for a vet visit of a dog named Ira. When you say "Ira's payment" in Finnish, you add suffix -n, so the text field said Iran, which of course must indicate money transfer to a sanctioned country. It is comforting to know that the bank system catches all the illegal activity that the sa…
They're scared of the bad press that that one criminal that does announce their payment's purpose and later gets caught will bring "See, it even said in the note field that it's for Iran and they didn't catch it. Bank X is so incompetent"
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#193Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'd prefer it if we legislated that organisations can't exclusively rely on closed systems like Facebook/Meta to run their services. I saw a sign last year for forestry service work happening locally to me. Apparently they're only going to provide safety announcements on Facebook. Shit like that grinds my gears. Meta's users aren't citizens, they're serfs. :(
> I saw a sign last year for forestry service work happening locally to me. Apparently they're only going to provide safety announcements on Facebook. There probably are (and should be) laws or regulations forbidding that, especially because "safety". OTOH, from the PoV of the lower-level Forestry Service people who decided to do that - I'd guess they're stuck in a miserably understaffed and low-budget bit of a prett…
You are most probably right, it's just the effect is the same unwanted de-facto monopoly on communications... so what's then there to do???
Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas
#194Earlier quoted context omitted.
True, I don't know for sure that I was banned for Python. But it's the only information that I have so far, since Meta isn't telling me anything. And the other person confirmed that he had this problem multiple times. And it's true, you're only seeing one side of the story here. But I promise, I can't think of anything nefarious I've done that would get me banned. Well, aside from my crypto casino run by drug-smoking…
You're also not providing us a single example advert.
I don't think that I have any of the ads around any more. But please believe me when I say that they are extremely innocent, nerdy ads promoting my courses on Python and Pandas. Nothing weird or illegal in the slightest.
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#195Earlier quoted context omitted.
To be somewhat fair to Meta; the "violation of unclear rules part" part is an appropriate response for spam detection . Usually any entity dealing with the web don't want to reveal how their spam detector works because doing so could in turn reveal information on how to circumvent it[0]. The issue is that Meta thinks they're large enough that they can apply this to every single one of their business customers and all…
Or they could, you know, spend some of their billions on employing humans to review these cases.
But then where would all the money to burn on VR product pipe-dreams come from? /s
Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas
#196As we improve the accuracy of automation and now the neural network, once laughed as a toy idea, does cough up something half decent, people ask "But who take a responsibility when things get wrong?" My answer is nobody.
These software giants never take a responsibility of wrongful automated result for decades but we keep using it.
Meta doesn't have an incentive to fix this case. It costs them manual labor of many manhours that outweigh the ad revenue from this person.
It probably keep this way.
Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas
#197>That’s right: I teach courses in Python and Pandas. Never mind that the first is a programming language and the second is a library for data analysis in Python. Meta’s AI system noticed that I was talking about Python and Pandas, assumed that I was talking about the animals (not the technology), and banned me. If this is true, that is insanely embarrassing for a company that purports to be a sophisticated programmat…
Sounds like speculation to me. Anything to back that up?
What would be the alternative here? Meta bans people from selling live animals or bans them from selling programming courses?
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#198This is a hilarious and kinda obvious mistake to allow in your system (if you work with data for couple of month at least it is). But it is also very surprising, that this process is not being turned into a stream of profit and good pr. Like, allow paid human supervision....
Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas
#199The whole issue around not telling you what rule you broke "because then you might work around it" is total BS. It's like a company I complained to the other day because they didn't label one of the inputs on their password reset form because "it would help a hacker know what to type in it" (it was the password reset password they expected but you wouldn't know). How much quicker would this be resolved if the first A…
It should be legally required to state a clear broken rule and example.
Right now they do this to avoid legal issues but as a citizen, I want them to be legally responsible.
Re: Meta is banning people from advertising after running ads for Python and Pandas
#200Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or they could, you know, spend some of their billions on employing humans to review these cases.
Meta does spend on humans to review cases though. Which is why it seems really strange that this was a lifetime ban, and so quickly at that. Maybe it didnt even get to human review?
According to one of the screenshots in the article, both the ban and the appeal were decided on by technology.