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The iOS option to charge battery to "80% Limit" shouldn't just be for iPhone 15

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Re: The iOS option to charge battery to "80% Limit" shouldn't just be for iPhone 15

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Post by numpad0 »

metadat wrote: post #2

I have an iPhone 13 mini as my "work phone "and it's indisputably a fantastic, efficient, small phone. However, I am kind of OCD about keeping it between 40-80% charged, which is a lot of manual toil. Conversely, I also have an Android Galaxy S22+ for my personal phone. The "Battery Protect" feature limits charging to 85%. Life is easy with this device and it causes me a lot less anxiety. Really now, why can't Apple…

Battery charging is often controlled in "hardware" and OS don't have full control(else a software crash could easily cause fire). Some hardware implementations can be instructed to stop charging immediately or stop this time at specific voltage, but implementation varies and the feature is often ignored.

Re: The iOS option to charge battery to "80% Limit" shouldn't just be for iPhone 15

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Post by Dylan16807 »

adastra22 wrote: post #97
Dylan16807 wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> That’s not how the Optimized Battery feature works Please say what the difference is, then?

It slows down and times its charging to reach the 100% right before you get up in the morning, rather than immediately after you plug it in (which would make it 100% all night long).

So in other words, the limiting only works overnight.

So, again, what is the difference from what you quoted? Is it the implication that it might work at other times of day when the phone is "normally idle"? I don't even know if that implication is true or not, since it depends on exactly how the phone calculates your schedule. But if that's your complaint, it seems pretty small to me, not enough to throw the rest of the article into question.

Is there something else I'm missing?

Re: The iOS option to charge battery to "80% Limit" shouldn't just be for iPhone 15

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Post by artdigital »

On an iPad, is it better to keep it plugged in at all time so it switches to AC power and doesn't touch the battery, though battery stays at 100%, or do some trickery with an automated socket to cut charging once it hits 80%, then re-enable power once it's at ~25?

Re: The iOS option to charge battery to "80% Limit" shouldn't just be for iPhone 15

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Post by Dylan16807 »

numpad0 wrote: post #121
metadat wrote: post #2

I have an iPhone 13 mini as my "work phone "and it's indisputably a fantastic, efficient, small phone. However, I am kind of OCD about keeping it between 40-80% charged, which is a lot of manual toil. Conversely, I also have an Android Galaxy S22+ for my personal phone. The "Battery Protect" feature limits charging to 85%. Life is easy with this device and it causes me a lot less anxiety. Really now, why can't Apple…

Battery charging is often controlled in "hardware" and OS don't have full control(else a software crash could easily cause fire). Some hardware implementations can be instructed to stop charging immediately or stop this time at specific voltage, but implementation varies and the feature is often ignored.

We know the older hardware has that, because the software already controls it on a schedule.

Re: The iOS option to charge battery to "80% Limit" shouldn't just be for iPhone 15

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Post by Eisenstein »

artdigital wrote: post #32

I have this feature enabled at all times, but my iPhone 15 Pro (with always-on display) usually can't make it through the day. Still wondering if limiting always to 80% will actually increase longevity of the battery

Go into the shortcuts app and create a shortcuts that turn off wifi when you leave areas where you use it and turn it back on when you return -- this will prevent the wifi radio from searching for APs constantly. Go into settings and check all your apps for background refresh -- there are probably a bunch that don't need to be constantly for new content when you aren't using them. Switch to Brave Browser instead of Safari -- the built in ad blocking will save CPU cycles on websites. With all of these set you can probably get another ~1hr or maybe ~2 if you have some egregious apps refreshing and a whole lot of APs you can't log into that keep coming in and out of range.

Re: The iOS option to charge battery to "80% Limit" shouldn't just be for iPhone 15

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Post by Cody_C »

These kinds of features being so limited annoys me.

Like GoPro can only auto clear a video from your sd card that has been uploaded on the newest model. There is no way that is limited to those devices. But, it probably isn't profitable to even crack open the code for the older models so they don't even consider it. It makes it worse because I'm even paying a subscription for storage.

Re: The iOS option to charge battery to "80% Limit" shouldn't just be for iPhone 15

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Post by imp0cat »

stealer0517 wrote: post #115
justo-rivera wrote: post #70

I can't imagine caring about this honestly. The way i feel it is like constantly caring if your white shoes are dirty, i only trust my shoes to help me walk. Technology should be as transparent as possible in my opinion and not bring us back to thinking about said technology, just what we can do with it. It's tiresome enough to worry about having a charged phone, i couldnt bring myself to look at battery percentage o…

We have phones plugged in 24/7 for work. The phones where I can limit the battery charging have never had expanded batteries. The ones that cant expand regularly (sometimes as little as 6 months). Personally i hate the optimized battery charging ios does. It’s awful. I’d rather being able to keep my phone plugged in basically 24/7 and always have it ready to go, but not have to worry about expediting its death.

It is possible to use something like Chargie to limit battery charge if you want to keep your phone plugged in.

Re: The iOS option to charge battery to "80% Limit" shouldn't just be for iPhone 15

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Post by imp0cat »

ewoodrich wrote: post #85
purjolok wrote: post #50

For rooted Android phones, there's ACC: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/mattecarra.accapp/

It's also a setting supported natively on Samsung devices.

I suspect it's mostly because of the exploding Note fiasco. But it's a great option to have.

Re: The iOS option to charge battery to "80% Limit" shouldn't just be for iPhone 15

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Post by imp0cat »

whycome wrote: post #41
xyzzy123 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish they made the batteries slightly larger, then made 100% on the battery meter secretly be 80% of the increased capacity so I could have my cake and eat it.

I'm pretty sure Samsung does a fake-out like this to display your 80% charge as 100. (Samsung.tablet at least)

Samsung phones stop at 85% and show 85% (if you enable the option "only charge up to 85% in the settings).

Re: The iOS option to charge battery to "80% Limit" shouldn't just be for iPhone 15

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Post by Scoundreller »

Reason077 wrote: post #92
justo-rivera wrote: post #70

I can't imagine caring about this honestly. The way i feel it is like constantly caring if your white shoes are dirty, i only trust my shoes to help me walk. Technology should be as transparent as possible in my opinion and not bring us back to thinking about said technology, just what we can do with it. It's tiresome enough to worry about having a charged phone, i couldnt bring myself to look at battery percentage o…

This is just an optional feature, nobody is forcing you to turn it on, or to care about it. Personally I rarely need a 100% charge: my iPhone 13 easily gets through a typical day with 40% remaining. But I do get annoyed when a phone is 2 or 3 years old and the battery is already worn out. Genuine iPhone batteries are expensive, and limiting charging to 80% will significantly extend their life. Worn out batteries don'…

While not ideal, maybe we could have more trickle chargers? My worry is that the battery actually gets used often but for short periods and that could effect long-term wear.

Personally, I have a Shortcut to put my phone into "low power mode" once it hits 90% (why not?).

Maybe a Shortcut could do the same and turn off power once it hits 80% on your overnight charging dock and then use a small amount of power while the screen is off.

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