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The iOS option to charge battery to "80% Limit" shouldn't just be for iPhone 15

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Re: The iOS option to charge battery to "80% Limit" shouldn't just be for iPhone 15

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Post by bigstrat2003 »

metadat wrote: post #69
bigstrat2003 wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I actually don't terribly mind that, mainly because in almost 15 years of owning a smartphone I've never dropped one in the water. I feel pretty comfortable not having waterproofing as a result.

Well, I really like a nice bath at the end of the day. Different strokes and all that, more power to you bigstrat.

I guess I'm genuinely surprised someone would even want to bring their phone into the bath. I do enjoy a bath rather than a shower on occasion, but I'm just enjoying the soak all by itself. But hey, like you said, different strokes for different folks. I certainly understand why the waterproofing is a concern for you if you're regularly using your phone over water.

Re: The iOS option to charge battery to "80% Limit" shouldn't just be for iPhone 15

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Post by whartung »

selimthegrim wrote: post #38
whartung wrote: post #16

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My X (bought new phone in December when it was released) was at 85+% on the battery. I replace it with a 15 because it was dropping off the OS bandwagon, needed more storage, battery life, lightning port getting fiddly. The OS support was the stake in the heart. If not for that I would have looked into getting the phone serviced with a new battery and port, and cleaned up some storage.

I’m still getting OS updates on my X

iOS 17 does not run on the X.

Re: The iOS option to charge battery to "80% Limit" shouldn't just be for iPhone 15

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Post by 1123581321 »

artdigital wrote: post #33
TheMiddleMan wrote: post #25

Related: for MacOS, AlDente allows you to set a battery charge limit. https://apphousekitchen.com/ I've been using it successfully for around a year. It works pretty well sans a couple quirks due to hardware limitations e.g. if you plug in with the screen closed (sleep mode) it will charge fully to 100%.

Wondering if third-party software like this, when not baked into the OS, will have other longterm side effects. Since it can't really put a hard-stop on charging, can it?

Al Dente just sets the charge target via SMC and lower level software handles power draw negotiation. It’s the same thing the OS uses to set the target to 100% or 80%.

Re: The iOS option to charge battery to "80% Limit" shouldn't just be for iPhone 15

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Post by jrockway »

powderpig wrote: post #34
mistyvales wrote: post #29

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My Pixel 6 doesn't seem to have this option.. I never looked into third-party apps for it though.

I highly recommend AccuBattery for Android. I have been using it for a few years now and I saw a noticeable difference on my Pixel 3a XL compared to use on previous smart phones. I now have a Pixel 6 and its nearly 2-years old and the battery lasts well beyond 30-hrs with combined use. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.digibites....

My previous phone was an iPhone XS and its battery was also completely fine for 2 years. Year 5, I definitely noticed a drop in battery life. If you're planning on keeping your phone for 5+ years, definitely do the 80% thing. If you're on a 2 year upgrade cycle, it probably doesn't matter.

Re: The iOS option to charge battery to "80% Limit" shouldn't just be for iPhone 15

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Post by SirMaster »

metadat wrote: post #58
op00to wrote: post #40

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I just use my phone. The battery can be replaced.

Sure, as long as you don't mind messing up / sacrificing the IP69 waterproof seal integrity. Ask me how I know *cries softly* .

Why does it mess up the seal?

Are you saying Apple doesn’t re-seal it properly?

Re: The iOS option to charge battery to "80% Limit" shouldn't just be for iPhone 15

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Post by pnpnp »

TheMiddleMan wrote: post #25

Related: for MacOS, AlDente allows you to set a battery charge limit. https://apphousekitchen.com/ I've been using it successfully for around a year. It works pretty well sans a couple quirks due to hardware limitations e.g. if you plug in with the screen closed (sleep mode) it will charge fully to 100%.

Same. I have mine set to sit at ~50% while plugged in & still have 100% of my battery health.

It’s an M1 Pro MacBook that I’ve had since launch.

Re: The iOS option to charge battery to "80% Limit" shouldn't just be for iPhone 15

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Post by NikolaNovak »

soultrees wrote: post #54

I have an 11 pro as my main workhorse. Multiple years old, constantly running the battery to 2 % then charging to 100 and it still lasts all day for me. I feel like the concern I see going on in this thread might be a bit misguided.

If we are sharing anecdotes, my wife and I got iphone xrs same Xmas. She regularly fully discharged hers, whereas I charged mine throughout the day. My phone very very rarely goes below 40 or even 50 percent. After couple of years, her battery life was awful and mine was fine.

Basically, I find individual stories vary, but statistics may show overall trends

Re: The iOS option to charge battery to "80% Limit" shouldn't just be for iPhone 15

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Post by Mawr »

nomel wrote: post #24
gloryjulio wrote: post #5

That's the point. Apple wants other models' batteries to degrade fast so that the users can upgrade to 15

As mentioned in the article, this has been an automated feature since iOS 8: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210512 Looking at my battery history, the automated version has my phone sit at 80% all night, and leaves it at 100% for only a couple hours in the morning. I suspect this will be a fairly negligible impact on battery longevity for me, and most users, without the severe inconvenience of a 20% reduction in ba…

Unfortunately, it's not possible to reliably automate this. A phone has no way to tell how it will be used after getting charged. It can try to detect some usage patterns, but it'll just be guessing, so even in the best case scenario it must remain conservative.

This is one of my pet peeves - obvious and easy to implement features that are just not there. I literally only switched to iPhones because the blindingly obvious Emergency Bypass feature [1] wasn't available on Android.

Phones already perk up when connected to a power source. Why not display an optional dialog with a choice of either the desired max battery level and/or some user-friendly modes like "battery health" vs "battery charge"?! Easy to implement, zero downsides, massive upsides, nobody's doing it.

[1]: https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/iphone/iph21d43af5b/io....

Re: The iOS option to charge battery to "80% Limit" shouldn't just be for iPhone 15

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Post by ewoodrich »

TheMiddleMan wrote: post #25

Related: for MacOS, AlDente allows you to set a battery charge limit. https://apphousekitchen.com/ I've been using it successfully for around a year. It works pretty well sans a couple quirks due to hardware limitations e.g. if you plug in with the screen closed (sleep mode) it will charge fully to 100%.

AlDente is fantastic, does it exactly what it claims to with no fuss. Happy to pay the 20 bucks or so for a lifetime license.

For my main computer (M1 Macbook Pro) that spends roughly 80% of the time on its charger, I have it set to 65% which gives me plenty of margin at home, plus it allows you to top-up to 100% on the pro version with one click.

For my 2015 Macbook Pro with heavily degraded battery that spends 100% of the time on its charger and on, I set it to 50% to (hopefully) lengthen the life of the battery before it swells since removing the battery safely is a bit sketchy on even that era of Macbook.

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