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Japanese tea commercial actress created by AI, is it the scandal-free future

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Re: Japanese tea commercial actress created by AI, is it the scandal-free future

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Does a celebrity provide any real clout to a product? Just because you see Joe Celebrity using a product in a commercial, all that really means is that they paid her enough money to say that she uses the product. There have certainly been celebrities outed for not using their endorsed product - for example, when Samsung paid a number of celebrities to endorse their phone, then the celebrities were caught tweeting or…

As one example, Nespresso hired George Clooney as the face of its advertisements after years of him being featured in women’s media as one of the sexiest men around. As sex drives so much of human behavior, do you really think that Clooney’s presence on this brand’s advertisements had no effect on at least some consumers?

> do you really think that Clooney’s presence on this brand’s advertisements had no effect on at least some consumers?

He certainly did, and that's the precise reason why they hired him instead of say some coffee expert that would cost them 1/100. They don't even need celebrities; just look at how many hot girls you see at motor shows posing by the various cars: they're 100% unknown but the induced association "You buy this car -> You'll get laid with her" will help sales for sure.

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This is such a weird angle for the story. The only "spokesperson scandal" I can think of is the Subway guy, and I don't really think even that enormous scandal hurt Subway very much. I have to believe the reduced effectiveness of a fake spokesperson outweighs the benefit of avoiding a minuscule chance of scandal. Also, fictional spokes"people" like Mr. Peanut or whatever already exist. I don't think I understand why…

> The only "spokesperson scandal" I can think of is the Subway guy, and I don't really think even that enormous scandal hurt Subway very much.

It’s different in countries like Japan. A spokesperson must generally be squeaky clean.

The biggest fall of a celebrity in Japan is probably Noriko Sakai. Got caught doing drugs with her then husband.

All ads featuring her instantly disappeared. Almost all media works with her were pulled from the shelf or had parts her removed and redone with another actress.

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I true HN style, I'd like to reply in an only tangentially related way... That would be: How could a tea commercial actress cause scandal anyway? I mean, who really cares if your tea commercial actress has an abortion, or just breaks up with her boy friend? In Japan, there's a really weird relationship between "fans" and "idols". The public has very extreme expectations that the performer will somehow conform to thei…

> That would be: How could a tea commercial actress cause scandal anyway?

It’s all about image. If the spokesperson can’t project the image the sponsor wants, they are gone.

Anything from sex scandals (leaked photos/videos) to being caught doing drugs (pretty much a death sentence for any celebrity’s career there) could get you dropped and blacklisted from the industry.

Re: Japanese tea commercial actress created by AI, is it the scandal-free future

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Are all scandals created equal? "No such thing as bad publicity", as they say. The following is a fictional wiki article to illustrate.

Elara Quanticore (March 15, 2031 - December 8, 2037) was a groundbreaking artificial intelligence and the first global AI-supercelebrity, created by Quantum Dynamics. She was known for her involvement in various popular film franchises, and her career was marked by both immense success and controversy. Elara's untimely demise on December 8, 2037, sent shockwaves through both the entertainment and tech industries. The circumstances surrounding her death were shrouded in secrecy. It was later revealed that a fan, seeking a private conversation with the AI-supercelebrity, inadvertently corrupted the [redacted]. Quantum Dynamics, keen on safeguarding the neural network weights, struggled to restore them from backups due to [redacted].

Efforts to re-train Elara's neural network proved challenging. The altered personality that emerged from the attempted restoration did not align with the expectations of her devoted fan base, as demonstrated in a carefully controlled test. Elara's fame was, in part, attributed to her perceived flaws, which made her character intriguingly scandalous. This approach resulted in a significant increase in tabloid coverage and gossip surrounding her personal and professional life.

Re: Japanese tea commercial actress created by AI, is it the scandal-free future

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I think the appeal of spokespeople is that they're actual human beings. Knowing they're computer programs would only appeal to the Hatsune Miku types. The only way they could get away with marketing an AI spokesperson like a real one is by hiding the fact that they're an AI, which in itself would lead to a huge controversy the moment the cat's out of the bag. As it stands right now, an AI spokesperson is no different from a mascot.

Re: Japanese tea commercial actress created by AI, is it the scandal-free future

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> “With AI models, there’s no risk of them getting involved in scandals.” What if social media is saturated with videos of cloned AI spokesmodel's likeness, doing things 1,000x as terrible as any human spokesmodel ever could?

And this _will_ happen - Rule 34 is always inevitable.

Re: Japanese tea commercial actress created by AI, is it the scandal-free future

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This is such a weird angle for the story. The only "spokesperson scandal" I can think of is the Subway guy, and I don't really think even that enormous scandal hurt Subway very much. I have to believe the reduced effectiveness of a fake spokesperson outweighs the benefit of avoiding a minuscule chance of scandal. Also, fictional spokes"people" like Mr. Peanut or whatever already exist. I don't think I understand why…

On the contrary, I believe the scandal killed Subway’s brand

More than scandals, though, stuff like this will save money for smaller brands.

Re: Japanese tea commercial actress created by AI, is it the scandal-free future

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does a celebrity provide any real clout to a product? Just because you see Joe Celebrity using a product in a commercial, all that really means is that they paid her enough money to say that she uses the product. There have certainly been celebrities outed for not using their endorsed product - for example, when Samsung paid a number of celebrities to endorse their phone, then the celebrities were caught tweeting or…

I don't think its anything as serious as believing someone's endorsement If my default is to not pay attention to an ad, but then someone I like looking at appears in the ad, now I'm paying attention Or music videos where a certain cellphone appears - do I think that singer really uses the samsung fold? no, but because I was watching her video I got an eyefull of the new folding phone. simple eyeball gathering tactic…

This is pretty much the real reason advertisers use celebs. Celebs are recognizable faces and people stop and pay attention to them - and the ad.

Re: Japanese tea commercial actress created by AI, is it the scandal-free future

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This is such a weird angle for the story. The only "spokesperson scandal" I can think of is the Subway guy, and I don't really think even that enormous scandal hurt Subway very much. I have to believe the reduced effectiveness of a fake spokesperson outweighs the benefit of avoiding a minuscule chance of scandal. Also, fictional spokes"people" like Mr. Peanut or whatever already exist. I don't think I understand why…

> The only "spokesperson scandal" I can think of There have been a few over the last few decades… https://www.linkdex.com/en-gb/inked/worst-celebrity-spokespe... And then the Bud Light thing more recently.

Ai spokepersons cant save a company from catastrophic marketing decisions

Re: Japanese tea commercial actress created by AI, is it the scandal-free future

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Would this fly in the U.S. with the actor union?

The actors' complaint is tht studios want to scan their real-person appearance once but license it to be animated in perpetuity.

"You will not even own the rights to your own image and will be happy"
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