Anyone know a good web site or publication that shows potential outcomes from all these different changes to global climate and where will be the best places to live in the future? Should i be looking to buy plots of property it Alaska?
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Gulf Stream weakening now 99% certain, and ramifications will be global
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Re: Gulf Stream weakening now 99% certain, and ramifications will be global
#12One of the implications of the Gulf Stream weakening is that Northern Europe will get cold and Northern Northern Europe will get hella cold (eg. Norway):
"If it collapses, it could lower temperatures by up to 10 or 15 degrees in Europe and lead to rising sea levels in the eastern US. It would also disrupt rain that billions rely on for agriculture."
Re: Gulf Stream weakening now 99% certain, and ramifications will be global
#13Anyone know a good web site or publication that shows potential outcomes from all these different changes to global climate and where will be the best places to live in the future? Should i be looking to buy plots of property it Alaska?
There's a book "How to Prepare for Climate Change: A Practical Guide to Surviving the Chaos" by David Pogue that I found had some decent information related to your questions.
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#15Anyone know a good web site or publication that shows potential outcomes from all these different changes to global climate and where will be the best places to live in the future? Should i be looking to buy plots of property it Alaska?
I be would naïvely think to move to up north to colder places because they will get warmer and have to deal the least with climate refuges. The equator will be death around it will be not that great, beyond that will be refuges. So Russia is looking great. There is a huge climate change boon Russia is set to receive within the next 50-100 years. Maybe Canada too and Scandinavia
> The equator will be death
Massive hyperbole. If temperatures increase 4.5 f - in South America, where most people live around the equator will be fine.
Same for Indonesia.
India's population is pretty heavily focused in the North and should will also not all overheat to death.
Don't know about Africa.
Also - moving north if you think the AOC will collapse is a losing strategy. Scandinavia will be colder than Greenland today. Europe will be colder than Canada.
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#16Anyone know a good web site or publication that shows potential outcomes from all these different changes to global climate and where will be the best places to live in the future? Should i be looking to buy plots of property it Alaska?
For slowing currents, at least in the long run, there's reasonable evidence that, in the extreme, the ocean becomes anoxic[0], stops producing oxygen and starts releasing hydrogen sulfide instead. It's happened a few times in Earth's history [0] suspected to usually be caused climate change impacting ocean circulation.
Peter Ward's Under a Green Sky does a fantastic overview of this subject, and outlines how most mass extinction events have likely been triggered by sudden changes in atmospheric CO2 through various mechanism.
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
What are you talking about? Have you experience restrictions on private transportation or heating justified by incorrect climate change causality?
Yes, the EU will forbid the sale of new petrol vehicles starting in 2035.
So by "yes", you mean "no, and I won't for at least 12 more years".
Re: Gulf Stream weakening now 99% certain, and ramifications will be global
#18One of the implications of the Gulf Stream weakening is that Northern Europe will get cold and Northern Northern Europe will get hella cold (eg. Norway): "If it collapses, it could lower temperatures by up to 10 or 15 degrees in Europe and lead to rising sea levels in the eastern US. It would also disrupt rain that billions rely on for agriculture."
It weakened by 4% over 40 years.
Why should we be concerned it's going to weaken by 100% in less than 40 years?
Why should we expect the climate will be the same in 100 years as it is today? The climate has always been changing. Europe was in an ice age from 1300 to 1850.
Do you think we could've done anything to stop that? Or should have?
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#20The "Cold Blob" illustrates quite well what is happening.