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Re: Leisure Suit Larry

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Post by terhechte »

spindritf wrote: post #109
terhechte wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We won't get rid of hookers until we change or get rid of capitalism, which is the major cause for self-inflicted objectification in our society.

> We won't get rid of hookers until we change or get rid of capitalism While that's true, prostitution was just fine in every other system. Maybe if we could get rid of scarcity of resources, there would be nothing to trade for sex. But that still leaves us with all kinds of psychological reasons, so maybe if we could get rid of human nature...

Here's a study where scientist introduced a group of monkeys to the concept of money, and soon after they understood it, the monkeys themselves developed prostitution:

http://www.zmescience.com/research/how-scientists-tught-monk...

Re: Leisure Suit Larry

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Post by kgreene2 »

artmageddon wrote: post #101
un1xl0ser wrote: post #96

I remember asking my parents for the age verification questions to be able to run LSL when I was a kid. I would head downstairs and ask her random trivia questions because it was easier than asking the Encyclopedia Britannica or what passed for the internet in those days. Obviously this day and age this is not possible due to Wikipedia, but in it's time and place it made me more likely to play rogue and/or do somethi…

Do you recall what kind of questions the game would ask? Most games typically asked something out of the user manual.

Al Lowe has all the questions listed http://www.allowe.com/Larry/1questions.htm

Re: Leisure Suit Larry

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Post by bitwize »

i386 wrote: post #13

The game has no major female characters who aren't hookers. No arguing that LSL has its place in gaming history, but it doesn't have a place in a future that is trying its hardest to remove objectification of women from society. EDIT: The down voting button is not a disagree button. If you disagree, reply!

I counted only one hooker. Most of the women are sex objects, sure, but Larry still has to woo them into the sack.

Re: Leisure Suit Larry

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Post by danso »

ergo14 wrote: post #106
danso wrote: post #97

I think the fact that this is primarily a PC port with iOS/Android merely a possibility is a deal-killer for me, thhe content notwithstanding. I'm not saying that PCs aren't technically the largest gaming platform by user base...I'm saying that the largest base of casual gamers with money to blow by far is iOS and Android. From what I remember, LSL and Kings Quest were largely casual in mechanic. Secret of Monkey Isl…

Because the game is not going to be casualized, that was clearly stated - they will not dumb it down. If it's a problem then I guess you don't have to chip in. Lets just vote with wallets.

Sorry, just because something is "stated", like, "This game is going to be the best game ever made", doesn't necessarily make it so. How exactly is LSL going to be made less casual than the original? Is there a first-person shooter being integrated into it? 3D graphics? Will it require a dedicated controller?

Assuming all the answers to those questions are no, then this is a game that would easily fit on the Android/iOS platforms, where much more complex adventure games have already been ported (Secret of Monkey Island, Capcom's Phantom Detective, etc).

Re: Leisure Suit Larry

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Post by aqme28 »

ekianjo wrote: post #90
i386 wrote: post #13

The game has no major female characters who aren't hookers. No arguing that LSL has its place in gaming history, but it doesn't have a place in a future that is trying its hardest to remove objectification of women from society. EDIT: The down voting button is not a disagree button. If you disagree, reply!

We have enough people trying to mess up with the real world, leave games alone. If we go down that path we end up burning books, remember ? Free society begins with free speech, no matter if you like what is being said or not.

So you're saying that we shouldn't have dissent about games because that stifles free speech? I think you're mixing up two mutually exclusive messages here.

Re: Leisure Suit Larry

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Post by Gring »

bane wrote: post #95

Why stretch it out more? LSL was fun, but it's time is passed. Why not something new like "Skinny Tie Sam" or "Pleather Pants Paul"? Create the world from scratch and don't be beholden to what's come before. edit in case anybody is interested, they should check out Matt Chat on Youtube, some of the most compelling interviews with adventure game designers of the past... Here's Part 1 of "Al Lowe" (designer of LSL) htt…

Agree. Larry was a child of its time. There should be no remake of "National Lampoon's Vacation", and for the exact same reason, for LSL.

Re: Leisure Suit Larry

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Post by aqme28 »

EricDeb wrote: post #79
i386 wrote: post #13

The game has no major female characters who aren't hookers. No arguing that LSL has its place in gaming history, but it doesn't have a place in a future that is trying its hardest to remove objectification of women from society. EDIT: The down voting button is not a disagree button. If you disagree, reply!

Disagree... Mainly because I could easily envision a society in which this argument snowballs, careening down a slippery slope until all comedy (South park, family guy, etc) is seen as harmful to society and made illegal or highly censored. I've never played this game, but I'm guessing it is supposed to be humorous, and I think protecting satire and supporting comedic efforts is extremely important.

Don't disagree with someone because of what the slippery slope could lead to. i386 didn't argue for making any comedy illegal. i386 simply just stated his/her reasons for not supporting LSL.

There's a reason the slippery slope argument is considered a fallacy and not something that should be taken seriously in any kind of argument.

Re: Leisure Suit Larry

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Post by dagw »

tbsdy wrote: post #54
dagw wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which bit to you find disturbing? The fact that the game acknowledges the existence of hookers, the fact that the game draws attention to the fact that many hookers work out of pretty seedy bedrooms or the fact that the game draws attention that many hookers end up looking less than their best. Would you have preferred "this is the hooker's fabulous bedroom. The bed's perfectly clean, so is the hooker!"

Try not to use begging the question as an argument. But what makes me sad is the second part. Because it's in a game, and it's done to be funny. I'm not shocked by the existence of hookers. I should be, but I'm desensitized.

it's done to be funny

Sleeping with the hooker is not framed as a funny or positive thing. The game makes it an empty and depressing act, leaving the main character feeling unfulfilled.

Also if you sleep with her without a condom you get an STD and it's Game Over, so there's even a helpful PSA included.

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