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Japanese tea commercial actress created by AI, is it the scandal-free future

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Re: Japanese tea commercial actress created by AI, is it the scandal-free future

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Not to get all “orientalism” but celebrity scandal is a pretty big deal in Japan and South Korea. It can kill a career quite easy, for (by US standards) innocuous things. Smoking pot, spicy selfies, having a significant other - it’s not uncommon. Japan at least is also fairly receptive to artificial spokespeople, like mascots and avatars. Maybe there’s simply higher demand for this, and turning to AI is a good strate…

I understand the first two, but I could never wrap my head around the "having an SO" is a scandal. Why is that?

Mostly for boy/girl - band types, where a major draw for people is "he/she is my future husband/wife, if only we could meet once". So having a SO destroys that connection.

Re: Japanese tea commercial actress created by AI, is it the scandal-free future

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This is such a weird angle for the story. The only "spokesperson scandal" I can think of is the Subway guy, and I don't really think even that enormous scandal hurt Subway very much. I have to believe the reduced effectiveness of a fake spokesperson outweighs the benefit of avoiding a minuscule chance of scandal. Also, fictional spokes"people" like Mr. Peanut or whatever already exist. I don't think I understand why…

By Japanese standards, having a boyfriend can be considered a scandal for a spokeswoman* if your fan base is infatuated with her and the realization she has a life alienates them.

In this case, a fictional photorealistic woman is a good alternative: she can maintain a "perfect" physical appearance, never change and never have a life.

* Or idol, or weather woman (look for Hiyama Saya).

Re: Japanese tea commercial actress created by AI, is it the scandal-free future

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post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to get all “orientalism” but celebrity scandal is a pretty big deal in Japan and South Korea. It can kill a career quite easy, for (by US standards) innocuous things. Smoking pot, spicy selfies, having a significant other - it’s not uncommon. Japan at least is also fairly receptive to artificial spokespeople, like mascots and avatars. Maybe there’s simply higher demand for this, and turning to AI is a good strate…

I understand the first two, but I could never wrap my head around the "having an SO" is a scandal. Why is that?

Because they are sold as an innocent sexual icon that is unclaimed and "maybe you the consumer can claim them if you spend enough money on products they support".

It's this weird toxic aspect of idol culture that sees the "idol" this way whether they are a man or a woman, and whether they are an actual idol, musician, actor, voice actor, etc. If they are young and are a public face (other than politician but even then...) then odds are they are affected by this culture.

Re: Japanese tea commercial actress created by AI, is it the scandal-free future

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post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to get all “orientalism” but celebrity scandal is a pretty big deal in Japan and South Korea. It can kill a career quite easy, for (by US standards) innocuous things. Smoking pot, spicy selfies, having a significant other - it’s not uncommon. Japan at least is also fairly receptive to artificial spokespeople, like mascots and avatars. Maybe there’s simply higher demand for this, and turning to AI is a good strate…

I understand the first two, but I could never wrap my head around the "having an SO" is a scandal. Why is that?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=z7QG9owYEUY

Re: Japanese tea commercial actress created by AI, is it the scandal-free future

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post #5

This is such a weird angle for the story. The only "spokesperson scandal" I can think of is the Subway guy, and I don't really think even that enormous scandal hurt Subway very much. I have to believe the reduced effectiveness of a fake spokesperson outweighs the benefit of avoiding a minuscule chance of scandal. Also, fictional spokes"people" like Mr. Peanut or whatever already exist. I don't think I understand why…

Agree. Weird angle. The point is you don’t have to pay or have a video shoot for an ai spokesperson.

Re: Japanese tea commercial actress created by AI, is it the scandal-free future

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post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to get all “orientalism” but celebrity scandal is a pretty big deal in Japan and South Korea. It can kill a career quite easy, for (by US standards) innocuous things. Smoking pot, spicy selfies, having a significant other - it’s not uncommon. Japan at least is also fairly receptive to artificial spokespeople, like mascots and avatars. Maybe there’s simply higher demand for this, and turning to AI is a good strate…

I understand the first two, but I could never wrap my head around the "having an SO" is a scandal. Why is that?

There's a class of entertainers in Japan and Korea (and to some extent other asian countries) called "Idols", for whom the appeal is being a simulated SO. The breaking of the illusion when they are revealed to have been "cheating" on you is a cardinal sin in this industry.

Re: Japanese tea commercial actress created by AI, is it the scandal-free future

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post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to get all “orientalism” but celebrity scandal is a pretty big deal in Japan and South Korea. It can kill a career quite easy, for (by US standards) innocuous things. Smoking pot, spicy selfies, having a significant other - it’s not uncommon. Japan at least is also fairly receptive to artificial spokespeople, like mascots and avatars. Maybe there’s simply higher demand for this, and turning to AI is a good strate…

I understand the first two, but I could never wrap my head around the "having an SO" is a scandal. Why is that?

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Re: Japanese tea commercial actress created by AI, is it the scandal-free future

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Reducing controversy could reduce costs. Plus I’m sure Disney would be happy to have fully generated and manipulable actors protected under copyright for decades upon decades. Essentially zero risk of actors making “bad” choices, especially “aging” or “getting fat”, or “retiring”.

And the worst choice of all - asking for more money. Imagine how much money Hollywood could have saved by being able to digitize Tom Cruise, Will Smith, or Leonardo DiCaprio early on in their careers, when they were doing acting gigs for beer money - and then simply use the digitized versions in lieu of the real thing after they made it big.

Why would the studios not just use a completely fictional ai character in the first place? That way you only have to pay for someone to model the character etc. I don't see the need for scanning real actors anyway
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