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Binance US No Longer Allows USD Withdrawal for Users

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Re: Binance US No Longer Allows USD Withdrawal for Users

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That is a phrase commonly associated with the Nazis in Germany misusing it e.g. as slogan on a concentration camp. Please do not post Nazi propaganda sentences without context

Rando wrote German to English website.

That doesn't mean that 1) you should do the same, and 2) that you should do the same with a phrase as loaded as that one.

Re: Binance US No Longer Allows USD Withdrawal for Users

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Thanks to Ethereum (and specially now that there are L2s which have cheaper tx costs) I can distribute revenue from my business between different types of collaborators, without incurring in paying 120% in taxes for having "employees". In Argentina if someone works for you more than 15/20 hours in a given month you are legally obliged to hire them for, at least, 3 months. The legislation doesn't fit in tons of cases,…

This really is the key thing. Crypto allows for the evasion of laws. That's its key contribution. In authoritarian states this is probably a net good. In the rest of the world this is a harm. "The killer app for this technology is crime."

I'm not condoning crime, but do you recognize that changing laws in an authoritarian state is next to impossible right?

Lives lost in Venezuela doing a serious attempt at changing. Do you prefer blood shed on streets?

Re: Binance US No Longer Allows USD Withdrawal for Users

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Cryptocurrency was (and still is to an extent) a really interesting idea that has a ton of real world utility, especially as government surveillance continues its march towards panopticon. It's a shame that the "get rich quick" grifters and speculators took ahold of it and have killed any chance of normal people adopting it as a regular form of payment.

It's not just government surveillance. The private sector has plenty of Peeping Toms. I'm pretty sure cryptocurrency isn't the solution.

The private sector doesn't have a monopoly on violence that it can use to imprison me.

Re: Binance US No Longer Allows USD Withdrawal for Users

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Cryptocurrency was (and still is to an extent) a really interesting idea that has a ton of real world utility, especially as government surveillance continues its march towards panopticon. It's a shame that the "get rich quick" grifters and speculators took ahold of it and have killed any chance of normal people adopting it as a regular form of payment.

Would love to hear what this "real world utility" is aside from burning down the Amazon rainforest and enabling all new kinds of fraud and scamming

Re: Binance US No Longer Allows USD Withdrawal for Users

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Cryptocurrency was (and still is to an extent) a really interesting idea that has a ton of real world utility, especially as government surveillance continues its march towards panopticon. It's a shame that the "get rich quick" grifters and speculators took ahold of it and have killed any chance of normal people adopting it as a regular form of payment.

> Cryptocurrency was (and still is to an extent) a really interesting idea that has a ton of real world utility, especially as government surveillance continues its march towards panopticon. Cryptocurrency not only doesn't help much, but even goes backwards there. You think the government is bad? Imagine life in NFT land. Your gym ticket is a NFT. Your movie ticket is a NFT. Your house deed is a NFT. So everyone you…

They can do more than just track you. "All members of the NAACP are banned from this space" becomes trivial when membership to everything is a NFT.

Re: Binance US No Longer Allows USD Withdrawal for Users

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Cryptocurrency was (and still is to an extent) a really interesting idea that has a ton of real world utility, especially as government surveillance continues its march towards panopticon. It's a shame that the "get rich quick" grifters and speculators took ahold of it and have killed any chance of normal people adopting it as a regular form of payment.

> government surveillance continues its march towards panopticon The entire notion of crypto is that you can track a block over every transaction and that the transaction history creates the whole. Most Exchanges are forced to report who opened a wallet. Compared to cash/gift cards or many other payment forms, Crypto is the government surveillance DREAM.

Monero exists

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Nearly 14 years in, where exactly is this “ton of real world utility”? Surely someone somewhere would have a product providing this utility, even amidst the sea of fraud and grift. I still don’t see it. Some utility? Okay, sure. A ton? Not even close. Consider that the web launched in 1993. By 2007 (14 years later), virtually the entire planet had changed dramatically as a result. That is a technology with a ton of r…

The utility is on the name: cryptoCURRENCY. Before it became a speculative asset, crypto faced the issue of adoption, now that it is one, it faces the issue of not being useful as a way to facilitate transactions.

I can call my fists "cancer-eradicating super-machines". Does that mean my fists are good at killing cancer?

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Nearly 14 years in, where exactly is this “ton of real world utility”? Surely someone somewhere would have a product providing this utility, even amidst the sea of fraud and grift. I still don’t see it. Some utility? Okay, sure. A ton? Not even close. Consider that the web launched in 1993. By 2007 (14 years later), virtually the entire planet had changed dramatically as a result. That is a technology with a ton of r…

Or look at much newer LLMs, or even Gaussian Splatting. Clear use cases, rapid innovation, certain impact. Cryptocurrency has two main applications: illegal transactions, and speculation. It's high time to stop pretending it got popular for any other reason.

>Cryptocurrency has two main applications: illegal transactions, and speculation.

So, two of the most valuable applications possible?

Re: Binance US No Longer Allows USD Withdrawal for Users

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Nearly 14 years in, where exactly is this “ton of real world utility”? Surely someone somewhere would have a product providing this utility, even amidst the sea of fraud and grift. I still don’t see it. Some utility? Okay, sure. A ton? Not even close. Consider that the web launched in 1993. By 2007 (14 years later), virtually the entire planet had changed dramatically as a result. That is a technology with a ton of r…

Yea same. Really still unclear what utility it provides that fiat currencies do not. Not theoretical utility, like real world utility. I think crypto will go down in history as an amazing example of the importance of institutional knowledge and regulation. Like how did nobody see fraud coming in an unregulated financial instrument? Did folks genuinely think that "decentralization" was going to sidestep all of the typ…

the things you're talking about are the selling point, not the problem. the foundational idea of cryptocurrency is that it is unregulated and therefore allows for fraud, crime, privacy, secrecy whatever. if you don't want to expose yourself to that, don't engage with crypto. much like with TOR, they're a necessary evil to provide online freedom

the problems as I see them are too much private regulation of the market—centralised exchanges that have too much power—and public regulation—KYC—which has largely removed the intended benefits in the first place

Re: Binance US No Longer Allows USD Withdrawal for Users

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Thanks to Ethereum (and specially now that there are L2s which have cheaper tx costs) I can distribute revenue from my business between different types of collaborators, without incurring in paying 120% in taxes for having "employees". In Argentina if someone works for you more than 15/20 hours in a given month you are legally obliged to hire them for, at least, 3 months. The legislation doesn't fit in tons of cases,…

This really is the key thing. Crypto allows for the evasion of laws. That's its key contribution. In authoritarian states this is probably a net good. In the rest of the world this is a harm. "The killer app for this technology is crime."

I think more specifically it enables the evasion of current unlawful activity prevention controls, however evasion overall is a questionable assertion with the inherent traceability of public ledgers.
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