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As an ex-lawyer I'd say this was 100% a good decision. As a profession we make our living off people who say "Dammit I won't pay, it's the principle, it's wrong & immoral." I, and I suspect many other lawyers, would always reply that principles cost a fortune in money time and grey hairs. I had plenty of clients and didn't need to litigate for billable hours.
... if you live/do business in the US. Over the decades, I had quite a lot of this situations in parts of our company or the company as a whole; here you cannot get anything done in this case (most cases didn't go to court as they were too silly, the ones that did we won and we didn't even turn up; just our lawyer while the opposition sat there wasting their time). If you get it to court at all (which is a problem to…
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#42this is sort of besides the point of the article, but why do people make businesses to sell them? as a scientist, i am not terribly interested in giving away the ideas that i have worked on for, typically, years. i become quite invested in them and continue to pursue them and evolve them until the funding runs out or new interests pop up that are worth replacing the old ones (typically this is an evolution as well).…
> why would a business run the same without the person who did all the work doing it? This is the part that I don't get either. I can imagine hearing "this coffee shop got better since the new owners", but I know I have heard "this place used to be good until it changed owners". And since the new owners have paid X years of profit which they arguably want to recover in less than X years, it is more than likely that t…
To be fair, I know at least one case of "this coffee shop got better since the new owners", but to be fair, it's because coffee shops are not really comparable to startups - namely because a very unsuccessful café can still hold huge real estate value.
Namely, in this case I'm talking about a café near a city center and a huge office building, but it was very dark, had old moldy sandwiches exposed and mixed low quality coffee with the brand coffee.
As you can imagine, after it was acquired by the new owners they just had to redecorate and sell normal products, and it quickly got packed every day.
Not sure if there's any possible equivalent for tech companies, though.
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#43If you're going to take the moral high ground, I feel like table stakes are to not have made a ponzi, cryptocurrency, ad network, murder-for-hire, timeshare, or SEO service.
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#44Now if you turn this around simply pay ass-tacker what he asked for then sue him for having done a bad job on the sale he had no part in but invoiced you for. Since ass-tacker now needs to defend he has to spend money disproportionately. There have to be legal firms that do this service for you.
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#45This also applies in non-business contexts. If you have a nice open source project, minecraft server, web forum, whatever: get rid of the assholes. Even if they are a highly capable person, in the end it's not worth it. They'll turn off other valuable community members, cause drama, and shift the general atmosphere to the worse.
And how do we find out who is the asshole? All people that i heard saying this were convinced its not themselves.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_No_Asshole_Rule#Recognitio...
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#46I've learned to listen to my gut in these situations. The worse your gut feeling is about an agreement, the harder you should push back on it until you can negotiate something that you're comfortable with. I usually give new relationships the benefit of the doubt once. Your first bad gut feeling can be wrong, but I've always regretted moving past a second bad gut feeling.
Be extremely suspicious if your counterpart tries to rush you through a contract negotiation process by downplaying the importance of the agreement while simultaneously refusing to budge on it.
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#47Any way to proof that the author actually sold his company by a better price than initially said? Otherwise it's just a bad sci-fi. What I learned from this story? You're always the bad guy in someone's story. Specially if this someone has a blog, time to blog and get linked to HN.
I think you just outed yourself.
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#48this is sort of besides the point of the article, but why do people make businesses to sell them? as a scientist, i am not terribly interested in giving away the ideas that i have worked on for, typically, years. i become quite invested in them and continue to pursue them and evolve them until the funding runs out or new interests pop up that are worth replacing the old ones (typically this is an evolution as well).…
This is 100% a concern. If a business is successful because the founder puts in insane amount of work that makes it less valuable to buy.
You ask the question: What would happen if the founders take a multi-month vacation? If the business would keep pumping money, either because it is passive, or because they trained people well and the machine is working without them, then that is a good candidate to buy. If it would fall, or cease to be a business that is a bad business to buy.
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#50This also applies in non-business contexts. If you have a nice open source project, minecraft server, web forum, whatever: get rid of the assholes. Even if they are a highly capable person, in the end it's not worth it. They'll turn off other valuable community members, cause drama, and shift the general atmosphere to the worse.
And how do we find out who is the asshole? All people that i heard saying this were convinced its not themselves.
Sure you can decide to back out sooner, but then you still worked with the asshole if only for a short while.
The real problem is how to identify the asshole, which isn't much of a moral tale but a matter of experience and competence in screening people and attracting good people.