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Grayjay – Follow Creators Not Platforms

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Re: Grayjay – Follow Creators Not Platforms

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Post by Sytten »

koen31 wrote: post #16

As one of the devs of the project, I will try to answer your questions as much as possible.

For the plugin I would add an API to let the developer define user settings. For example look at what Xtra (https://github.com/crackededed/Xtra) offers for twitch. The most important is to be able to set a proxy to retrieve the feed in countries without ads and even bypass country geo-locks for content. Now I would probably not ship this in the official plugin, but my point is that you need to be able to expose those settings in the plugin.

Re: Grayjay – Follow Creators Not Platforms

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Post by zakki »

koen31 wrote: post #32
moonleay wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Will there be support for streaming videos from Piped instances?

The plugin is not in the pipeline right now. However, anybody can make a plugin (see https://gitlab.futo.org/videostreaming/plugins for examples). We will also publish more docs soon to help people get started (heres a small getting started doc https://gitlab.futo.org/videostreaming/grayjay/-/blob/master... ). Perhaps in the future once we have a bit more time we can spend more time adding platforms.

What is the license for the plugin?

Re: Grayjay – Follow Creators Not Platforms

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Post by iopq »

2Gkashmiri wrote: post #34

tried the app. 1. not open source. 2. has pay-to unlock feature but no idea what is behind the paywall. the website doesn't mention having to pay for it 3. does not have sponsorblock or anything related to that in the settings edit: i don't care about "OSI compliant is only open source", rather i am fine with any free license

There's no paywall, it just asks you to pay for the software. You can use it without paying for as long as you like, but it's paid software. See: WinRAR

Re: Grayjay – Follow Creators Not Platforms

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Post by Sytten »

judiisis wrote: post #17

It is not Open Source as claimed by Louis Rossmann https://gitlab.futo.org/videostreaming/grayjay/-/blob/master...

At the end of the day that is why I decided to not be open for my business. Even if you try to be on the good side its hard and you have the eternal source available vs open source debate.

I wish they would develop a license friendly to both businesses that want to ship software that is source available and users of that software. One could strike a balance between full OSS and legitimate needs of the producer to live off their creation.

Re: Grayjay – Follow Creators Not Platforms

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Post by Lycake »

koen31 wrote: post #40
Lycake wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can't install, only ever get "Problem parsing the package" with the universal and the specific apk. What is the minimum required Android version? I'm still on 9

We are minimal SDK 29 right now ( https://developer.android.com/tools/releases/platforms ) we will look into lowering the requirement to Android 9, there seem to be quite a lot of requests for that.

Thank you. Not really surprising to see a lot of those request. A lot of the audience is coming from Louis at the moment. Seeing his ongoing fight for right to repair, I'd expect there to be a lot of people with older phones with older android versions

Re: Grayjay – Follow Creators Not Platforms

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Post by alexvoda »

Sytten wrote: post #44
judiisis wrote: post #17

It is not Open Source as claimed by Louis Rossmann https://gitlab.futo.org/videostreaming/grayjay/-/blob/master...

At the end of the day that is why I decided to not be open for my business. Even if you try to be on the good side its hard and you have the eternal source available vs open source debate. I wish they would develop a license friendly to both businesses that want to ship software that is source available and users of that software. One could strike a balance between full OSS and legitimate needs of the producer to liv…

They can use whatever licence they want. It's their software. They should only call it open source if they use an OSI-approved licence. Doing otherwise is openwashing and is frowned upon.

Re: Grayjay – Follow Creators Not Platforms

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Post by wizhi »

Sytten wrote: post #38

Their plugin system is interesting, they embedded a V8 engine to run JavaScript to then make some api calls to the various platforms. I am 99% sure this is against each platform ToS and that they will get sued by Twitch, YouTube, etc. Especially since they are asking people to pay. But I wish they good luck!

Is this any different from other alternate YouTube apps like NewPipe?

Re: Grayjay – Follow Creators Not Platforms

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Post by 2Gkashmiri »

iopq wrote: post #43
2Gkashmiri wrote: post #34

tried the app. 1. not open source. 2. has pay-to unlock feature but no idea what is behind the paywall. the website doesn't mention having to pay for it 3. does not have sponsorblock or anything related to that in the settings edit: i don't care about "OSI compliant is only open source", rather i am fine with any free license

There's no paywall, it just asks you to pay for the software. You can use it without paying for as long as you like, but it's paid software. See: WinRAR

call it donationware then. that sets the expectations of people accordingly

Re: Grayjay – Follow Creators Not Platforms

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Post by tcfhgj »

Sytten wrote: post #38

Their plugin system is interesting, they embedded a V8 engine to run JavaScript to then make some api calls to the various platforms. I am 99% sure this is against each platform ToS and that they will get sued by Twitch, YouTube, etc. Especially since they are asking people to pay. But I wish they good luck!

Can't you use the APIs without accepting the TOS?

Re: Grayjay – Follow Creators Not Platforms

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Post by tcfhgj »

alexvoda wrote: post #46
Sytten wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At the end of the day that is why I decided to not be open for my business. Even if you try to be on the good side its hard and you have the eternal source available vs open source debate. I wish they would develop a license friendly to both businesses that want to ship software that is source available and users of that software. One could strike a balance between full OSS and legitimate needs of the producer to liv…

They can use whatever licence they want. It's their software. They should only call it open source if they use an OSI-approved licence. Doing otherwise is openwashing and is frowned upon.

It would be open washing if you couldn't look at the source code, but you can.
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