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Re: Psytrance Guide

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Post by altacc »

globular-toast wrote: post #122
globalise83 wrote: post #116

Having grown up with psytrance, I find that 25 years later the modern stuff just sounds like a cheap, low-effort pastiche of what psytrance used to be. And... I just became my Dad.

I stopped listening around the time of Infected Mushroom's Vicious Delicious . The genre seemed to jump the shark around that time. Looking back Goa Trance was the real trance and by 2000 it was already starting to go down the shitter.

Whilst I do like a lot of Infected Mushroom's stuff I've always seen them as the cheesy, commercial, "like it ironically" side of psy-trance. I don't consider them truly representative of psy-trance, at least the eurocentric versions I listen to.

Although I do like the variety that has developed, especially when there's multi-room club and it's possible to walk around and find whatever fits your current mood and energy level.

Re: Psytrance Guide

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Post by freeqaz »

commotionfever wrote: post #129
duped wrote: post #72

Something not said explicitly but to me, is the characteristic sound of psy-x is the synth bass line. It's a very simple sound that you can make in any subtractive synth - you start with a single saw, add a lowpass filter, and instead of using the amplitude envelope to control the dynamics or "pluck" of the sound you modulate the cutoff of the filter by an envelope with a very short attack, quick decay, and low or ze…

regarding the pumping, I'm not sure if sidechain compression is what most producers are doing. I'd describe it as a gallop rather than a bump. so with 16ths, you'd typically see 1/16 & 2/16 have zero to little amplitude, 3/16 & 4/16 have most of the energy. 4 maybe even a little less so. which can't be done by sidechaining. also phase alignment with the kick is important

Are there any resources out there that you would recommend to learn about this stuff?

Re: Psytrance Guide

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Post by atkbrah »

globalise83 wrote: post #116

Having grown up with psytrance, I find that 25 years later the modern stuff just sounds like a cheap, low-effort pastiche of what psytrance used to be. And... I just became my Dad.

Indeed. In the past tunes would keep evolving. Now everything has that tuba bassline, soft sounding kick and different kind of snarling sounds with echo and that's it.

Re: Psytrance Guide

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Post by globular-toast »

duped wrote: post #72

Something not said explicitly but to me, is the characteristic sound of psy-x is the synth bass line. It's a very simple sound that you can make in any subtractive synth - you start with a single saw, add a lowpass filter, and instead of using the amplitude envelope to control the dynamics or "pluck" of the sound you modulate the cutoff of the filter by an envelope with a very short attack, quick decay, and low or ze…

Also perhaps not explicitly stated but in these genres the bass line is a drone. There's no melody in the bass line. This is similar to instruments like the sitar. It creates add harmonics and basically gives it the psychedelic sound.

Re: Psytrance Guide

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Post by 867-5309 »

drsnow wrote: post #124
duped wrote: post #72

Something not said explicitly but to me, is the characteristic sound of psy-x is the synth bass line. It's a very simple sound that you can make in any subtractive synth - you start with a single saw, add a lowpass filter, and instead of using the amplitude envelope to control the dynamics or "pluck" of the sound you modulate the cutoff of the filter by an envelope with a very short attack, quick decay, and low or ze…

Bro what the fuck does literally any of that shit mean lol

welcome

Re: Psytrance Guide

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Post by bangkoksbest »

jjulius wrote: post #59
bangkoksbest wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because it's how DJs connect tracks together. That's the target audience for purchasing psytrance, and most electronic dance music, tracks.

Yeah, but with most genres, you typically don't find them isolated to such small BPM ranges (I see on this guide ranges as low as 2 BPM). Most genres have a much wider range, eg ~10-ish or more BPMs. I really don't think it's accurate to limit these genres to such a small range, when a genre is more about the specific sound and style of a track. Source: DJ for ~25 years.

Yeah, I'm not saying all the genres operate the same with BPMs. Compared to most house and techno events I go to, I do feel that psytrance events are a bit more "unrelenting" in bpm where I wish there was more variety.

Re: Psytrance Guide

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Post by freeqaz »

macNchz wrote: post #11

I’ve enjoyed listening to psychedelic electronic music while programming since discovering Shpongle twenty years ago. I feel like it helps my brain get into the right mode somehow. I’m not familiar with the definitions of a lot of these sub-taxonomies but interested in listening to them! I have a coding playlist I’ve put together over the years that is more towards the psybient/chillout end but includes some trance a…

Thanks for sharing. Super awesome and will check it out fully! (It's saved after an hour+ of listening)

Easily Embarrassed is a band worth checking out. Same with Vibrasphere.

If anybody here is in the Seattle area and wants to check out a show or jam, please email me!

Re: Psytrance Guide

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Post by larodi »

Interestingly this misses one psy genre of paramount importance - the PsyDub.

Hallucinogen in Dub by Ott, and the Dub Trees project for example to name a few. There is a recent dubstep/psydub crossover which sounds very promising.

Also I would add what is called mental techno in this list, even though it’s more on the acid side of things.

Re: Psytrance Guide

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Post by SSLy »

drsnow wrote: post #124
duped wrote: post #72

Something not said explicitly but to me, is the characteristic sound of psy-x is the synth bass line. It's a very simple sound that you can make in any subtractive synth - you start with a single saw, add a lowpass filter, and instead of using the amplitude envelope to control the dynamics or "pluck" of the sound you modulate the cutoff of the filter by an envelope with a very short attack, quick decay, and low or ze…

Bro what the fuck does literally any of that shit mean lol

https://learningsynths.ableton.com/
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