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Re: Psytrance Guide

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Post by intellix »

I've been listening to Infected Mushroom daily for about 15+ years, mostly on repeat and I love it (obviously). My problem is that I just can't find similar music. People will say: "Oh I like psy too" and then recommend various artists of which the music sounds very repetitive to me (it's not just 5 minutes of dunalun)

One of the things I feel sets them apart (at least in for example in their best works) is that they're very complex tracks that feel like you're going on a journey where they start with a theme and then revisit it later in the track.

I was excited to see this site cause I'd maybe finally understand what subgenre I need to search in specifically but they weren't mentioned even once which is strange since they're the most successful psy artist of all time.

So what sub genre do they fit into and what else can I listen to?

Re: Psytrance Guide

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Post by comprev »

dylan604 wrote: post #66
kortex wrote: post #52

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I don't understand why bands get so much animosity for "leaving their roots". IM make amazing, unique music and put on one hell of a live show. Is it as "pure" psytrance as Astral Projection et al? No but why does it have to be? They make music they like to make.

I don't understand your not understanding. Just because the band changes doesn't mean that the fans have to follow along if they don't like what they've started to produce. Everyone has their likes/dislikes. If someone makes specific reasonings for their tastes not following the new direction doesn't mean they are wrong. You're no better for making your comment than someone stating theirs. For example, how many peopl…

The first two Black Eyed Peas albums are wildly different from anything else they did. They stopped being a hip-hop group and became a pop band.

U2, Radiohead, Kate Nash, Metallica, Coldplay have also dramatically changed musical direction and lost/gained fans in the process.

Re: Psytrance Guide

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Post by antupis »

intellix wrote: post #91

I've been listening to Infected Mushroom daily for about 15+ years, mostly on repeat and I love it (obviously). My problem is that I just can't find similar music. People will say: "Oh I like psy too" and then recommend various artists of which the music sounds very repetitive to me (it's not just 5 minutes of dunalun) One of the things I feel sets them apart (at least in for example in their best works) is that they…

They kinda spinned their own genre 2004- most similar stuff what I kind know is shpongle(more downtempo) and Suomisaundi(own psy subgenre, weird stuff from Finnish artists)

Re: Psytrance Guide

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Post by Prcmaker »

antupis wrote: post #93
intellix wrote: post #91

I've been listening to Infected Mushroom daily for about 15+ years, mostly on repeat and I love it (obviously). My problem is that I just can't find similar music. People will say: "Oh I like psy too" and then recommend various artists of which the music sounds very repetitive to me (it's not just 5 minutes of dunalun) One of the things I feel sets them apart (at least in for example in their best works) is that they…

They kinda spinned their own genre 2004- most similar stuff what I kind know is shpongle(more downtempo) and Suomisaundi(own psy subgenre, weird stuff from Finnish artists)

I remembered Shpongle earlier this year, after not even thinking of them for the better part of a decade. The work clean room hasn't been the same since. It's a welcome respite from pop radio in the main workshop.

Re: Psytrance Guide

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Post by tomduncalf »

jjulius wrote: post #51
rogerclark wrote: post #36

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Casual listeners can't detect it, but it strongly affects the possibility space for production purposes. For instance, if you're writing happy hardcore music at 170+ BPM with a kick drum on every beat, you will get surprisingly little time between those kicks to work with the bass and other instruments. While this is a somewhat extreme example, even something like the difference between 128 BPM and 138 BPM can change…

If you're interested in some BPM fuckery, there's a small-ish contingent of artists/labels doing some cool things around the 80/160-ish BPM range. Folk like Donato Dozzy, Patrick Russell and Forest Drive West have been putting together some great sets that sound like this militant-ish blend of Techno and Drum and Bass and just get really 'out there' in, in my opinion, the best way possible. There's one moment in a Fo…

Ah what a pleasure to see Donato Dozzy mentioned on here! One of my favourite DJs/artists. Hearing his Labyrinth 2008 set [1] had a big impact on my musical tastes - I was into techno already, but hadn’t discovered anything so deep and hypnotic.

It actually might appeal to people on here who like psy trance - it’s a different style (hypnotic/deep techno) and tempo but it shares some structural and sonic elements.

I’ve had the pleasure of seeing him play many times and meeting him and he’s just as lovely as you’d hope!

[1] https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nGIUCQ8KW9Y or https://m.soundcloud.com/paul-wuerdig/sets/donato-dozzy-laby...

Re: Psytrance Guide

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Post by jona-f »

intellix wrote: post #91

I've been listening to Infected Mushroom daily for about 15+ years, mostly on repeat and I love it (obviously). My problem is that I just can't find similar music. People will say: "Oh I like psy too" and then recommend various artists of which the music sounds very repetitive to me (it's not just 5 minutes of dunalun) One of the things I feel sets them apart (at least in for example in their best works) is that they…

Yes, I feel the same. For me it was Infected Mushrooms and Shpongle. I didn't have 15+ years of tenacity though. So try Shpongle if you don't know them yet. Back in the day, i moved from listening to them all the time to listening to Igorrr (breakcore) all the time.

Re: Psytrance Guide

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Post by tomduncalf »

jjulius wrote: post #71
matt_j wrote: post #68

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Donato Dozzy is an amazing selector. One of the greats.

Damn right! I'll forever be gutted knowing that I had the chance to see Voices From the Lake live and ended up not going.

I think they are touring as VFTL again, I saw them perform the first album here in London at the start of the year and they are back next week with all new material! So there’s hope that they might come back to whatever part of the world you’re in :)

Re: Psytrance Guide

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Post by uoaei »

Psytrance is basically Zumba, but only in nighttime forest settings while quite high on mushrooms.

I learned I like psytrance this summer.

Re: Psytrance Guide

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Post by jesperlang »

I was a psytrance DJ through much of the 00s and what a wonderful and diverse genre this is :) It takes some time getting used to though. My first listening experience I basically denounced it as "too hard" and noisy but my general love for electronic music made me keep listening and all of a sudden I was hooked. I listened to and played mostly goa-trance due to its very melodic nature, it really has something unique with its focus on melody (with non-western scales) and not just squeeky and strange sounds (which I do like). The explosion of "Full-on" in the mid 00s made me loose interest and it dominated the parties I went to and played at. Full on has this particular annoying feature of being, yes full on, hardly any buildups just cheap, cheesy breaks and "in your face" to please the fistbumping crowd. I still occasionally listen when there is an interesting release but this is mainly a fading memory from my youth..

This is in general a great guide, very impressive! I mean it even includes Suomisaundi (one of my favourites) which is such a small subsub-genre, back in the days it encompassed maybe a handful of artists on 1-2 record labels. The sometimes narrow BPM ranges I'd say you can ignore. The genre is very experimental so you can have pretty much any of the faster sub-genres speed down and then just call it "* chill". This was often the case when albums were made in the 00s, that an artist would end with a chill track, many times these were their best outputs and sometimes lead to new side projects.

I don't want to pick on the song selection but there is at least one major artist missing here. Shpongle is probably the most successful psychill artist of all time and one of my most powerful musical experiences of any genre. Start with "Tales of the inexpressible" and work your way through their catalog :)

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