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Post by jjulius »

matt_j wrote: post #68
jjulius wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're interested in some BPM fuckery, there's a small-ish contingent of artists/labels doing some cool things around the 80/160-ish BPM range. Folk like Donato Dozzy, Patrick Russell and Forest Drive West have been putting together some great sets that sound like this militant-ish blend of Techno and Drum and Bass and just get really 'out there' in, in my opinion, the best way possible. There's one moment in a Fo…

Donato Dozzy is an amazing selector. One of the greats.

Damn right! I'll forever be gutted knowing that I had the chance to see Voices From the Lake live and ended up not going.

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Post by duped »

Something not said explicitly but to me, is the characteristic sound of psy-x is the synth bass line. It's a very simple sound that you can make in any subtractive synth - you start with a single saw, add a lowpass filter, and instead of using the amplitude envelope to control the dynamics or "pluck" of the sound you modulate the cutoff of the filter by an envelope with a very short attack, quick decay, and low or zero sustain.

If you're fancy you can use a stepper or lfo sync'd to 16th notes to do the same thing instead of programming loops of 16th notes.

And of course, you sidechain compress that with the kick to get the pumping sound.

That's how you get the deep vibe of a psy track that resonates in the club at 2am.

That's just the basics. The really good tracks find ways to make it crazy, like modulating the decay of the filter envelope with velocity of the notes and then adding velocity curves to create dynamics with the baseline, or adding a reverb send and automating the send level as you build up to the end of a phrase. Or taking the basic idea (a plucky bass with sixteenth notes) and changing how the pluck is defined via an FM synth, or overdrive, or frequency shift, and so on. It's such a simple sound that can be driven to weird places.

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Post by leptons »

nextstep wrote: post #53

Interesting that this is on the front page of HN today. Tensions are running high in the psytrance subreddit this week. Psytrance is very popular among Israeli settlers, perhaps because many visit Goa after completing their military service.

The festival in Israel where 250 people were murdered by Palestinians while they were dancing in peace was a Psy Trance festival. One of the greatest Psy Trance bands of all time, Astral Projection, was supposed to play at the festival. You're right that tensions are running high. This was an absolute pogrom on a peace loving community that many people (including myself) have been a part of for 40+ years. Suggesting that "tensions are running high" is the understatement of the year.

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Post by dylan604 »

dzolob wrote: post #42
z500 wrote: post #6

Hi tech psytrance is some of the most aggressively weird stuff I've ever heard. I love it.

Try finnish psytrance. Texas Faggott, Flying Scorpions,OOOT… Suomisaundi psytrance is carzy.

I don't know why this is flagged. Texas Faggott perhaps? It the name of an artist.

Soumisaundi - wikipedia[0] "In 1997 Exogenic Records became the first record label to focus on Suomisaundi and approximately during the same time Midiliitto was founded as an association focusing on the advancement of production and commercialisation of Suomisaundi. Pepe Kosminen was the founding Chairman of Midiliitto. Together with Flippin Bixies, Midiliitto counted within its members many of the future international stars of Suomisaundi, including the members of groups like Texas Faggott and Squaremeat."

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suomisaundi

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Post by aeontech »

dekhn wrote: post #15
macNchz wrote: post #11

I’ve enjoyed listening to psychedelic electronic music while programming since discovering Shpongle twenty years ago. I feel like it helps my brain get into the right mode somehow. I’m not familiar with the definitions of a lot of these sub-taxonomies but interested in listening to them! I have a coding playlist I’ve put together over the years that is more towards the psybient/chillout end but includes some trance a…

thanks, my only comment on this topic was going to be "where can I find more like shpongle". Well, I guess the second comment would be "when will somebody make a Generative Shpongle?"

Check out Benji Vaughan (the other half of Younger Brother along with Simon Posford), and his harder alias, Prometheus.

his first solo album under his own name, Even Tundra, is incredible

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Post by an_aparallel »

Cannabat wrote: post #69
an_aparallel wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Shulman is one of my favourites - i wish they still made music. Incredible incredible music - not just for psytrance, just in general. Also recommend Bluetech.

Zero Degrees is one of the trippiest songs of all time.

"random thoughts" is pure class.

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Post by duskwuff »

jachee wrote: post #22

“Hmm… I wonder where Infected Mushroom falls…” ^F Infected … zero results. o_O

IM's work as a whole is all over the place; it doesn't fall cleanly into any single genre. You'd have to narrow it down to individual albums, or even to tracks.

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Post by jochem9 »

sebosp wrote: post #38
ericHosick wrote: post #2

It's great to see a link specifically about Psytrance on Hacker News. I enjoy trying to understand how Psytrance is made and if that is something you find interesting too checkout @Projector_music on youtube (no affiliation).

I would love to learn about this... Specially in the era of demucs, maybe some python automation to ableton live tracks that we can modify through the day slightly? I have playlist with dozens of 1+ hour videos on YouTube of psytrance and I find them so enjoyable, full of bass and good for focusing (granted there's the obligatory 1 minute muttering in the song of Terrence McKenna but OK, if psilocybin helped them cre…

If you want to literally program music, I can recommend Sonic Pi. The current top comment describes the typical psy bass line in technical terms, which is enough to recreate it in code.

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