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X/Twitter will begin charging new users $1 a year to access key features

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And they all go over to Bluesky now, co-invented by the former Twitter CEO, paid by investors, providing exactly one server. What could go wrong?

> co-invented by the former Twitter CEO

Jack Dorsey no longer believes in or participates on Bluesky. He deleted his account a month ago. Is his former involvement really still relevant?

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>Musk said “It’s the only way I can think of to combat vast armies of bots.” With so many of these billionaires and CEOs it is becoming impossible to tell whether they are transparently lying or complete idiots. Just admit you need the revenue and you want people to put a card on file to lower the bar for future financial transactions. Charging for a service doesn't eliminate bots, it just shifts the financial break…

So bots just need to earn more than a dollar per year in revenue to break even? That’s every scam bot in existence!

Re: X/Twitter will begin charging new users $1 a year to access key features

#113

And they all go over to Bluesky now, co-invented by the former Twitter CEO, paid by investors, providing exactly one server. What could go wrong?

> co-invented by the former Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey no longer believes in or participates on Bluesky. He deleted his account a month ago. Is his former involvement really still relevant?

The website says he's still a member of the board. But I have not noticed his general disapproval, so thank you!

Re: X/Twitter will begin charging new users $1 a year to access key features

#114
post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It must shift it by a lot, right? I would think the cost of a twitter bot would be in the neighborhood of a fraction of a cent/year.

A bot on its own doesn't cost Twitter much directly, but enough bots costs Twitter users.

I mean for the botters. $1K vs <$10 to run a thousand bots for a year should have a dramatic effect on the risk/reward ratio.

Re: X/Twitter will begin charging new users $1 a year to access key features

#115

What's worse, killing your own company because you can't get advertising revenue, or killing your own company because you are desperately trying to make up for the loss of said advertising revenue?

Or killing your company because you never wanted it to start with and have no idea what to do with it now that you're stuck with it?

Re: X/Twitter will begin charging new users $1 a year to access key features

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post #112
post #19

>Musk said “It’s the only way I can think of to combat vast armies of bots.” With so many of these billionaires and CEOs it is becoming impossible to tell whether they are transparently lying or complete idiots. Just admit you need the revenue and you want people to put a card on file to lower the bar for future financial transactions. Charging for a service doesn't eliminate bots, it just shifts the financial break…

So bots just need to earn more than a dollar per year in revenue to break even? That’s every scam bot in existence!

It's even better than that, for just $1/year they can get their bot accounts certified as a "real human".

Re: X/Twitter will begin charging new users $1 a year to access key features

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post #19

>Musk said “It’s the only way I can think of to combat vast armies of bots.” With so many of these billionaires and CEOs it is becoming impossible to tell whether they are transparently lying or complete idiots. Just admit you need the revenue and you want people to put a card on file to lower the bar for future financial transactions. Charging for a service doesn't eliminate bots, it just shifts the financial break…

> EDIT: To expand on why this clearly isn't targeting bots, this only applies to new users. It therefore does nothing regarding all the bots currently on the platform. It is clear that they don't want to chase off existing users which applies to both real users and bots.

Existing bots can be slowly banned off. The problem with bots, on any platform, is their ability to just make a new account instantly.

Re: X/Twitter will begin charging new users $1 a year to access key features

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> In a statement published shortly after Fortune reported the news of the $1 plan, X ‘s support account confirmed the details and described the move as a way to curb the prevalence of bots and spam on the platform, rather than a money-making endeavor. “This new test was developed to bolster our already successful efforts to reduce spam, manipulation of our platform and bot activity, while balancing platform accessibility with the small fee amount. It is not a profit driver,” the company said.

$1 per account is not that much money to pay if you want to spam or manipulate twitter. According to this (https://www.privacyaffairs.com/dark-web-price-index-2022/) as hacked Twitter account $25, and I believe I've read that fresh accounts already sell for a couple dollars (because the cost of faking through signup verifications, etc).

Re: X/Twitter will begin charging new users $1 a year to access key features

#119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think X should get credit for this move anyways. Them charging for access may make more people comfortable with the idea of paying for social networking, so that in the future more people will join when new social networks are made that don’t mine the data of the people

WhatsApp did the $1/yr thing a long time ago. Here is an article from 2016 about them scrapping it. https://venturebeat.com/mobile/whatsapp-subscription/

This might be different though because this is led by Elon Musk, who has always somehow managed to come out well despite bad looking decisions,

Like pard68 though, I have no skin in the game and have also given up on social media.

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I know people are down on the-social-networking-platform-formerly-known-as-twitter, and I have no skin in the game, I gave up on social networking about a decade ago, but I think this is the model to beat. Forever the FOSS world has said, "if you do not pay for the product, you are the product". Well, here is X trying to make a product you pay for. I do not know their new policy on tracking/ads/spying but even if the…

>Well, here is X trying to make a product you pay for. No, this is an attempt to have it both ways. To do data collection / data brokerage and ALSO charge users for the service.

"you will pay to be the product"
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