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"A Young Lady's Illustrated Primer" Simulated by GPT-4

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She spoke softly to no one, "Like chiseled spam." Crowsfeet wrinkled deeply as a wistful smile spread across her face.

Her eyes seemed to scan an unseen horizon as if daring it to contest her words. They had seen decades come and go, fads morph into nostalgia, and the trivial be elevated to the profound. The room around her—a hodgepodge of vinyl records, old movie posters, and furniture that screamed “thrift store chic”—only added to the ambiance of cultured decay. It was as if she and the room were in a symbiotic relationship, both…

What is this from?

If this thread from the top-level comment is full of references, I’m not getting it.

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I really enjoy Stephenson novels, and Three Body Problem seemed pretty popular around here. But I really disliked the Three Body Problem (I only read the first book). I think this might be my own fault, because I had convinced myself this book was the same story as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremis_(Doctor_Who) but in the end it wasn't, and I felt the story would have been so much better if it was.

Since 3 body was first published in 2008 and Extremis in 2017, I think you mean to say "I convinced myself that Extremis was the same story as 3 body"... maybe it's irrelevant, but precedence can matter sometimes

Yes, that is what I should have said (and it was also what I was thinking at the time, since it is not uncommon for sci-fi episodes to take plots from other stories. https://www.escapistmagazine.com/star-trek-strange-new-world... is another such example).

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Definitely a Stephenson issue. It's a meme for sure, but there is some truth in it. Nowadays when I re-read any of his old works, I tend to stop after getting about 80% through. That said, I do think that these incredibly complex narratives are extremely hard to wrap up neatly. GRRM has this issue as well. That's the problem with letting characters act how they would actually act, and make decisions that make sense f…

Gene Wolfe. Somehow resolves or explains every seemingly random occurrence throughout the story, even if the first person narrator is extremely unreliable and doesn’t make the connection

What book would you recommend as a good introduction to his works?

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Do you think that's a Neal Stephenson issue? Don't get me wrong, I love his writing, but I found this to be the case with Fall too. I can see it becoming tiring if one is writing 400+ page books.

I think it's a cyberpunk thing. There's all this action, and it is fascinating and absorbing. It's all leading up to some major reveal and then -- the reveal is disappointing. There is the concept of a MacGuffin: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacGuffin . It's the thing that sets a story in motion, but is actually irrelevant, beside the point. Like the Maltese Falcon in The Maltese Falcon. The important point is somet…

My favorite MacGuffin of all time was the one in _The_Amazing_World_of_Gumball_ (S5E27, "The Menu")

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I think people forget Stephenson’s cautionary note at the end of The Diamond Age — that the Primer is no substitute for parenting.

It was a great substitute for Nell’s parent.

That's a bit thick. The whole plot ends up being about the search for the true mother. The main contrivances of the story go to great lengths to spell this out: not even a technology as advanced as the primer can substitute functionally for human connection. If it is not already clear by the last handful of pages, it gets hammered in with by acts of courage which show what is worth risking one's life for.

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The best sci-fi stories are ones that you could relatively easily translate to fantasy, or even just "normal world" - because it is extremely difficult to write an engaging story that is "only the MacGuffin" - it can be done, but it is quite hard (and often appeals to a particular niche audience).

Do you think, perhaps, that the Harry Potter series and its' Horcruxes is an example of a MacGuffin that worked?

Since I read all of the books, but forgot what a Horcrux even is, I don't think so. Because I would not have had forgotten the briefcase in Pulp Fiction. A central element that gets referenced often. I don't know if Harry Potter has a MacGuffin at all, maybe the wands and magic in itself?

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> The idea that Chinese families give up their born infant babies because of gender is a racist extrapolation of sex-selective abortion I'm not sure I understand this. Female infanticide due to the One Child Policy happened -- and similar things happened in previous eras of Chinese history by the Han ethnicity. So I'm not sure what you are saying here about an extrapolation.

No actually, it's a myth rooted in the racist belief that Chinese people care about their children less than other people, and therefore are willing to kill or abandon their children on a large scale rather than pay a fine, to a greater degree than other people - you actually indicate you believe the broader version of this racist myth with your "Han ethnicity" comment, indicating you believe that there is some relat…

I think you underestimate what people will do when desperate, or the extent of gender bias among the Hans. I was born in Taiwan and raised in America, and I still caught whiffs of it.

I am not sure where you are getting the idea that people in the Imperial eras were capable of determining the sex of fetuses, and proceeding with abortion. As far as I know, that is a modern thing enabled by modern technology. If you are suggesting that people heard of this modern practice and projected it falsely into the past … I had thought so to, until I read through a history of Chinese martial arts.

China’s history is very complex. There were imbalances in sex ratios, with large numbers of unmarried, unemployed men skilled in violence destabilizing the society, throughout centuries. By the Ming dynasty, every village trained militias because they had to, and it was a thin line into banditry. Villages, convoys — those were raided. Women kidnapped, and raped. It was a big enough problem that the Ming literates and intelligentsia talked about it, and it grew worse during the Qing.

Corruption among local officials wasn’t minor. It was rampant. Land ownerships had locked people out of economic opportunities, and abusive landowners were the norm. Sects, secret societies were formed for a variety of reason, including mutual protection. Those were the seeds for the near constant uprisings and rebellions during the Qing dynasty, culminating to the Taiping Civil War (14 years of fighting, 20-30 million dead, 600 cities razed). That sex ratio imbalanced was a factor leading to all of this.

China also has the world’s most complex watershed in the world, when taking agriculture into consideration. The only other comparable watershed in terms of complexity is that of the Sacramento River basin, and it does not compare to the scale of the Yellow River basin. The flooding of the Yellow River is frequent. Feast and famine is deeply ingrained in Chinese culture (“have you eaten?” is the equivalent of “how have you been?”). We are talking mass displacement of refugees and widespread hunger during the bad time. Even if it were not wars, rebellions, or bandits, this alone sets the circumstances for desperate times.

You can call female infanticide “racism” if you like, but I think doing so denies the misery and cruelty buried in history.

As for me, this — both the good and bad — are a part of my heritage. Female infanticide is one thread out of many that had happened. It’s in owning the whole thing that reform is possible.

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I loved Diamond Age. My favorite Stephenson book, by far. But the ending, the resolution of all the action, was such a letdown. Such meh. I find that this is often a problem with cyberpunk.

That's a Stephenson problem. He loves the world building, the engineering problem solving, but gets stuffed when it's time to end the books; which given his writing style, is totally understandable. I don't want the books to end either!

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Yeah, it was a bit meh. But the book is so good I forgive the ending.

I barely remember the actual story in cryptonomicon, but his tangents on who fucked who in Greek mythology, how to eat cereal with a beard, how to assemble a Linux distro with such an obtuse user interface as to defeat Van Eck Phreaking, or Plato's cave are absolute gold.

It's a joke in my household that I often say "there's great a chapter on that in Cyrptonomicon" given basically any topic.
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