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Re: Leisure Suit Larry

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Post by andrewfelix »

Tichy wrote: post #26
andrewfelix wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have to agree with this. A lot of people are probably remembering the game through rose coloured glasses. It was a great game when we were all kids and got excited at the prospect of seeing a nipple. It's a little disappointing to see immature misogynistic entertainment getting so many upvotes on HN.

Seeing a nipple doesn't excite you anymore? Then you are probably dead. I am not for misogynistic entertainment, though. But sexual attraction exists in the real world, we can not just make it go away by pretending that we don't see it.

Misogyny and sexual attraction are not mutually exclusive. For example Mass Effect tackles the issue of sexual attraction relatively tastefully.

Re: Leisure Suit Larry

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Post by rytis »

VMG wrote: post #31
i386 wrote: post #13

The game has no major female characters who aren't hookers. No arguing that LSL has its place in gaming history, but it doesn't have a place in a future that is trying its hardest to remove objectification of women from society. EDIT: The down voting button is not a disagree button. If you disagree, reply!

There is pretty good evidence that people are able to differentiate fiction from reality. If we apply the idea that game worlds should be moral, what about GTA?

Every now and then things like this happen though: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/apr/02/teenager-daniel-bar...

Ban Coronation Street? Perhaps not. But we can't really say that media is not influencing our behaviour...

Re: Leisure Suit Larry

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Post by joelmichael »

i386 wrote: post #13

The game has no major female characters who aren't hookers. No arguing that LSL has its place in gaming history, but it doesn't have a place in a future that is trying its hardest to remove objectification of women from society. EDIT: The down voting button is not a disagree button. If you disagree, reply!

Of the four main female characters, there is only one prostitute.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leisure_Suit_Larry_in_the_Land_...

Re: Leisure Suit Larry

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Post by [deleted] »

edanm wrote: post #60
guelo wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just assumed he's not on a crusade against the entire current gaming industry.

If the op isn't, does it matter? Not actively fighting something is not the same as agreeing to it. Does the fact that the op doesn't fight for human rights in Africa make them unable to fight for anything else?

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Re: Leisure Suit Larry

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Post by terhechte »

i386 wrote: post #13

The game has no major female characters who aren't hookers. No arguing that LSL has its place in gaming history, but it doesn't have a place in a future that is trying its hardest to remove objectification of women from society. EDIT: The down voting button is not a disagree button. If you disagree, reply!

We won't get rid of hookers until we change or get rid of capitalism, which is the major cause for self-inflicted objectification in our society.

Re: Leisure Suit Larry

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Post by jtchang »

i386 wrote: post #13

The game has no major female characters who aren't hookers. No arguing that LSL has its place in gaming history, but it doesn't have a place in a future that is trying its hardest to remove objectification of women from society. EDIT: The down voting button is not a disagree button. If you disagree, reply!

Whoa. This is a game.

In the future games like this can be made and most people will enjoy them for that they are: games.

Re: Leisure Suit Larry

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Post by pellias »

mkramlich wrote: post #22

I wrote an iPhone game that's extremely like Leisure Suit Larry, about a year or two ago. Same spirit and game mechanics. Called "The Adventures of Khaki Pants Pete". Pretty much a nod to LSL, even the name was a tongue-in-cheek reference to it's name. I did it under contract for a dev shop that in turn did it for the company that owns the Klondike Bar. A lot of people said it was pretty fun. I thought it was fun. An…

The KS project is a PC version which i assume will take more to develop than the iPhone game right ? I do not know how much it takes to develop such a game but other games in KS is also asking for similar range (Wasteland 2 got twice the $900k they asked for).

Re: Leisure Suit Larry

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Post by rogerbraun »

Lazare wrote: post #58
kabuks wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like your version of the future, and would love to live in it. However in my present, every ninety seconds, somewhere in America, someone is sexually assaulted. Tens of thousands of girls and women are trafficked for sex, and one out of 3 women are sexually assaulted in their lifetime. Our society is fucked up around sex. It's not LSL's fault, but it certainly isn't helping. It pisses me off that someone is trying…

I'm actually a little confused. You list some very negative things, which I strongly deplore, and then you say it "isn't LSL's fault, but it certainly isn't helping". Those are, indeed, very negative things! But... A lot of things can be described as not being at fault, but not helping reduce the number sexual assaults in America. Apple pie. The Toyota corporation. Cows. Vegetarians. The colour blue. If LSL really is…

You are taking this too literal. "LSL isn't helping" means that it perpetuates a view of women and dating that is bad for society. I know it is a parody, but even so, it is a small part of the larger problem we have with sexism in our society.

Re: Leisure Suit Larry

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Post by aw3c2 »

i386 wrote: post #13

The game has no major female characters who aren't hookers. No arguing that LSL has its place in gaming history, but it doesn't have a place in a future that is trying its hardest to remove objectification of women from society. EDIT: The down voting button is not a disagree button. If you disagree, reply!

Huh. Larry is a loser. A sad loser who fails with women all the time. So this game has no major male character who is not displayed as a complete loser. This is sexism!

Or did you never play Larry and posted after looking at random third-party media about it?

Seriously, the game series is about the struggle of a stereotype of a "disgusting" male. And it is dark humour, sarcasm, cynism, you name it.

Re: Leisure Suit Larry

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Post by toyg »

rytis wrote: post #62
VMG wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is pretty good evidence that people are able to differentiate fiction from reality. If we apply the idea that game worlds should be moral, what about GTA?

Every now and then things like this happen though: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/apr/02/teenager-daniel-bar... Ban Coronation Street? Perhaps not. But we can't really say that media is not influencing our behaviour...

This was a 14-year-old. Any modern LSL game would be rated 18+. I'm not saying media influence isn't real (heck, I don't think i've ever wanted a big house until I watched Desperate Housewives), but that it can and should be managed to a degree.
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