I must be in the minority here, but I feel YouTube provides enough value that it's worth paying for to get rid of ads.
Piped – An alternative privacy-friendly YouTube front end
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#102I must be in the minority here, but I feel YouTube provides enough value that it's worth paying for to get rid of ads.
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#103I find that YouTubes recommendation algorithm is not great. It would be a cool feature to be able to something like assume a persona and have recommended videos that similar like minded people watched. There's effectively infinite videos on YouTube but it's common I can go there looking for a video and find nothing interesting to watch. In some cases it's pushing recommendations for videos all similar to a recent vid…
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#104I tried a few of the servers, the pages load very quickly, search is fast etc. But when I click on the play arrow, a long time elapsed before the video starts.
Is this expected? (is this because ads are being skipped in the background)?
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#105The privacy argument is extremely important, also in regards to avoiding tracking via ads, but I do not think bypassing or blocking ads is the way forward. In the free democratic world, we really should aim to do better than this, and instead try to actually develop privacy respecting alternatives that is not going to undermine the internet, further empower the big players, or hurt website owners unnecessarily – incl…
There already is an alternative to youtube. Peertube https://joinpeertube.org/ The problem is most content creators are only publishing on YouTube, so that is where you have to go. If you are a content creator please publish on peertube so we have options. If you know a creator, likewise encourage them to publish there.
Content creators (the ones that we actually hear about and make money off Youtube) are too addicted to the algorithm to even consider dropping Youtube. At most you'll find some of them hedging a bit and joining something like Nebula or Floatplane
I believe that we will have to adopt some guerrilla tactics to win this war: we need to make it clear to creators that they won't make any money if they continue using Youtube. More people using frontends is a start, making Sponsorblock a feature even better, and I'd say that we should even have to run some pirate Peertube instances to copy the content away.
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#106How long until YouTube figures out how to block all of this stuff like Piped and Invidious etc.? I feel like a better answer would be alternative platforms.
The unfortunate answer is that it’s coming, and in the form of the Web Environment Integrity API, aka device attestation. If/when they manage to deploy this to enough devices, they will be able to restrict viewing to only allow ”blessed” clients. It needs hardware-level support, and that has been rolling out for maybe 10+ years now in the form of TPM modules and such. The future they’re aiming for is that unless you’…
I don't know how much sway it has in this but didn't the W3C signal opposition to the WEI effort? And it's possible the antitrust lawsuits will have more influence on their audacity in this matter.
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#107The privacy argument is extremely important, also in regards to avoiding tracking via ads, but I do not think bypassing or blocking ads is the way forward. In the free democratic world, we really should aim to do better than this, and instead try to actually develop privacy respecting alternatives that is not going to undermine the internet, further empower the big players, or hurt website owners unnecessarily – incl…
The issue with YouTube isn’t the ads, it is the number and length of ads combined with a monthly premium option that is far too expensive for what it offers. You may make the argument that YouTube includes music, but the quality and capabilities of the platform are very poor compared to competitors. $5/mo is about the most I would ever pay.
idk, I have been using youtube music and it doesn't seem way worse than spotify. Maybe we use it differently.
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#108Invidious is a good piped alternative for those starting to look at this space: https://invidious.io/ Yattee is a good front end app for both piped and invidious for Apple TV (and iOS and macOS but I prefer the browser on those platforms)
Invidious had its own big thread yesterday at
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#109If this is too off-topic please just ignore it (and don't DV). I want to embed YT videos on a website, but we would like them to be as private as possible. For example, DDG has a player which shields the watcher from YT's data hoovering. Any suggestions? Perhaps the search terms I'm using are wrong?
Hi, you can embed it using simple HTML!
For example, you can try this: https://piped.video/embed/jNQXAC9IVRw" />
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#110Also check out a FOSS Android app LibreTube[1]. No ads, SponsorBlock, ReturnYouTubeDislike, can proxy all the videos through a Piped instance, subscription sync with a Piped account, offline and online playlists are supported [1]: https://github.com/libre-tube/LibreTube
NewPipe+Sponsorblock is also nice. No logins.
What's different is that NewPipe connects to YouTube servers directy while LibreTube doesn't. Also, LT has MD3.