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Using Goatse to Stop App Theft

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Re: Using Goatse to Stop App Theft

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Post by singleshot_ »

Chabsff wrote: post #234
singleshot_ wrote: post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems to me that the intent is to get people to stop stealing his IP, no?

And, especially in the context where the same result could have been achieved as easily without resorting to law-breaking, how does that constitute a license to break other laws?

If one element of the law that you are claiming that he broke is intent to cause distress and he didn’t have that intent, the elements of the crime were not present. This is not debatable as a matter of law; the only question of fact would be “what was the intent?”

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Post by permo-w »

PhasmaFelis wrote: post #219
permo-w wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm opening myself up to criticism by saying this, but this is unusually cringeworthy even for XKCD

I guess you're one of those people who thinks that any sincere emotional expression is cringe? I've never understood that attitude.

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Post by everfree »

ww520 wrote: post #147
b800h wrote: post #141

I am absolutely not a lawyer, but I wouldn't do something like this for fear of falling afoul of anti-obscenity laws. For instance, the UK has a cyberflashing law which allots a two year custodial sentence for sending a graphic image (by any means) with intent to cause distress.

Author is not the distributor of the image.

Third party site asks user's browser to request an image from the author. User requests an image from the author. Author says "sure thing", distributes an image of goatse to the user.

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Post by admax88qqq »

nonrandomstring wrote: post #61

Once, out of the kindness of my foolish heart, I ran a server with a lot of great sound effects for all and sundry to download. Eventually the bandwidth was getting hammered by a huge number of leechers seemingly from some apps that had simply hard-linked to the resources. After replacing said resources [0] they soon ceased but not without a slew of abusive and entitled emails demanding I restore the SFX. Oh fun time…

"I ran a server for free sound effects for all and when it got popular I fucked over my users" lolwut.

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Post by adhoc_slime »

admax88qqq wrote: post #244
nonrandomstring wrote: post #61

Once, out of the kindness of my foolish heart, I ran a server with a lot of great sound effects for all and sundry to download. Eventually the bandwidth was getting hammered by a huge number of leechers seemingly from some apps that had simply hard-linked to the resources. After replacing said resources [0] they soon ceased but not without a slew of abusive and entitled emails demanding I restore the SFX. Oh fun time…

"I ran a server for free sound effects for all and when it got popular I fucked over my users" lolwut.

You know that is not in the spirit of the website. They were taken advantage of.

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Post by mrweasel »

nonrandomstring wrote: post #61

Once, out of the kindness of my foolish heart, I ran a server with a lot of great sound effects for all and sundry to download. Eventually the bandwidth was getting hammered by a huge number of leechers seemingly from some apps that had simply hard-linked to the resources. After replacing said resources [0] they soon ceased but not without a slew of abusive and entitled emails demanding I restore the SFX. Oh fun time…

> simply hard-linked to the resources

It's fairly surprising to see that approach from pretty large brands/companies. Some Indian ISPs are kinda notorious in that they'll just link to huge image files on third-party sites and just let their 300 million customers hammer the poor site into the ground. I guess it saves them bandwidth, but they also run a huge risk of pissing someone off and have that asset replaced by something nasty. When people use this kind of hard-linking/hot-linking of resource I don't think they do it to save money or to be evil, I think it mostly gross incompetence.

We had an issue where our product images would just be ruthlessly scraped, if there had been some rate-limiting in place we'd most likely just have allowed it or not noticed. Normally I just pointed the poor scraper to a multi-gigabyte file or funny and unrelated image, if you want to download the same image of a beaver 25.000 times go ahead.

But I also seen amateurishly search engines just pound a site to the point where it was easier to just deny all traffic coming from their crawler, as compared to try to reach out and figure something out. Say what you will about Google and Bing, their crawlers are well written and well behaved.

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Post by MerelyMortal »

b800h wrote: post #223
KittenInABox wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have a link to such a case? Genuinely asking because I want to know how the lawyers argue this in court without bursting into giggles from embarrassment.

Sure: https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna34483145

Maybe the article is slanted, but he sounds like an exhibitionist, not someone minding their own business.

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Post by darig »

admax88qqq wrote: post #244
nonrandomstring wrote: post #61

Once, out of the kindness of my foolish heart, I ran a server with a lot of great sound effects for all and sundry to download. Eventually the bandwidth was getting hammered by a huge number of leechers seemingly from some apps that had simply hard-linked to the resources. After replacing said resources [0] they soon ceased but not without a slew of abusive and entitled emails demanding I restore the SFX. Oh fun time…

"I ran a server for free sound effects for all and when it got popular I fucked over my users" lolwut.

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Re: Using Goatse to Stop App Theft

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Post by karaterobot »

admax88qqq wrote: post #244
nonrandomstring wrote: post #61

Once, out of the kindness of my foolish heart, I ran a server with a lot of great sound effects for all and sundry to download. Eventually the bandwidth was getting hammered by a huge number of leechers seemingly from some apps that had simply hard-linked to the resources. After replacing said resources [0] they soon ceased but not without a slew of abusive and entitled emails demanding I restore the SFX. Oh fun time…

"I ran a server for free sound effects for all and when it got popular I fucked over my users" lolwut.

The issue was hotlinking directly to resources, which has been a no-no on the web since day one. The fault is entirely on the side of the bad actors who misused a free resource and in so doing ruined it.

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Post by amenhotep »

b800h wrote: post #223
KittenInABox wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have a link to such a case? Genuinely asking because I want to know how the lawyers argue this in court without bursting into giggles from embarrassment.

Sure: https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna34483145

"in a place that can be seen through a telescope" is very different from "standing in front of a window clearly visible from the street" in a way that a court would, imo, not have trouble distinguishing.
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