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Tech CEO sentenced to 5 years in IP address scheme

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Re: Tech CEO sentenced to 5 years in IP address scheme

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post #55

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NAT is a strong argument against IPv4 -- it's an absolute pain in the ass for bidirectional communication. Yeah, NAT acts as a defacto firewall, but you can just... use a real firewall.

> it's an absolute pain in the ass for bidirectional communication You're right and that's what I love about NAT, IPv6 in contrast is a hacker/spy tracking digital superhighway right through my front door and straight into my devices.

Not one bit of that is true or accurate.

Re: Tech CEO sentenced to 5 years in IP address scheme

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What a smart entrepreneur he was to commit fraud!

messing up and defrauding that way doesn't negate the fact that you still need to be smart on some level(depending on your definition) to create an IT company. We should definitely punish the fraud. But also look at rehabilitation. In this case, we are taking someone that could under the right circumstance be a net positive for society and putting him in jail for 5 years where he will most probably come out as a dest…

> where he will most probably come out as a destroyed human.

This is more evidence of the flaws of the (US, anyway) penal system that an argument against custodial sentences in general, no?

I get where you are coming from, but do you have practical alternatives? A slap on the wrist is probably overall a worse (global) outcome...

Re: Tech CEO sentenced to 5 years in IP address scheme

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Texan billionaire Robert Brockman sued an Australian for stealing $20 million from his trust in 2020 [1]. A few months later, he was indicted for hiding $2 billion of income from the IRS [2]. He died before trial took place anyway.. 1- https://amp.smh.com.au/national/australian-barrister-denies-... 2- https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/ceo-multibillion-dollar-softw...

I wonder if the target of his civil lawsuit could have ratted him to the IRS and collected a whistleblower payment...

how much is that?

Re: Tech CEO sentenced to 5 years in IP address scheme

#84
post #56

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> It adds unnecessary overhead to small packets Are you forgetting that NAT exists? IPv4 is barely functional based on how many workarounds we've had to implement over the years

NAT means we can work with IPv4 already and makes IPv6 moot. you just supported my argument. Honestly, all they had to do was add alpha characters. Just doing so would have gave us more IP addresses than we ever needed while keeping it human readable.

IPv6 standard notation already uses alpha characters. Some notations of IPv4 use them too.

"Just adding characters" isn't a solution on its own. IPv4 is 32-bit addresses, IPv6 is 128-bit addresses. That's all there is to that.

Re: Tech CEO sentenced to 5 years in IP address scheme

#85
post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

NAT is a strong argument against IPv4 -- it's an absolute pain in the ass for bidirectional communication. Yeah, NAT acts as a defacto firewall, but you can just... use a real firewall.

> it's an absolute pain in the ass for bidirectional communication You're right and that's what I love about NAT, IPv6 in contrast is a hacker/spy tracking digital superhighway right through my front door and straight into my devices.

That's only true if you don't have a firewall, or yours is misconfigured. "Only allow related" as a default incoming rule works just fine for IPv6.

Re: Tech CEO sentenced to 5 years in IP address scheme

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post #38

This highlights something tangential, but interesting nevertheless: Oftentimes getting embroiled in a civil lawsuit will, if impropriety is uncovered via the process of discovery, lead to separate criminal charges. The lesson here is that if you have something to hide, and it looks like you're going to be dragged into civil court (especially Federal civil court,) you should rush to settle or beg for arbitration behin…

Wouldn't it be better to rush to a country without an extradition treaty with the US?

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Re: Tech CEO sentenced to 5 years in IP address scheme

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post #15

"in a 2020 interview with KrebsOnSecurity, Golestan claimed that Micfo was at one point responsible for brokering roughly 40 percent of the IP addresses used by the world’s largest VPN providers. Throughout that conversation, Golestan maintained his innocence, even as he explained that the creation of the phony companies was necessary to prevent entities like Spamhaus from interfering with his business going forward.…

It is reasonable to not want your name plastered on a website run by vigilante cyber police who we have given quasi-law enforcement powers and the ability to de facto shut down ISPs (and in one case a ccTLD). It's even more reasonable when you realize they are incorporated in Andorra - good luck suing them if they get something wrong!

Re: Tech CEO sentenced to 5 years in IP address scheme

#88

The underlying crime was wire fraud, and it happened to be about acquiring IP addresses. He wasn’t prosecuted because he got too many, but for how he got them.

Wire fraud, wire fraud, it's nearly always wire fraud. Elizabeth Holmes, George Santos, Charlie Javice, all the people who got fake Covid funds - wire fraud, wire fraud, wire fraud.

In this day and age if you're committing fraud it's pretty hard for it not to be wire fraud given how everything is transmitted digitally. And penalties for wire fraud are extremely steep (up 20 years for each charge), and it automatically makes it a federal crime. So just don't...

Re: Tech CEO sentenced to 5 years in IP address scheme

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I know somebody who basically stole a class A IP network many years ago, in the very early days of IPV4. (He wouldn't tell me which one, but he had inside knowledge of how the system worked, and I know his background, so I believe him. ;) The huge company that owned it went out of business, so he registered their domain name, and sent in an email to authorize the transfer. Once you've got a hot class A network on you…

That’s it? Free service?

The problem is a /8 is too big to transact on. Somebody is going to ask questions, and then the scam will be unwound at best, you'll end up in jail at worst.

If he had taken a defunct entity's /16 (class B), it could probably have been marketed more directly. Although, I'm assuming this was long enough ago that it might have been still quite possible to get a previously unused class B from ARIN.

Re: Tech CEO sentenced to 5 years in IP address scheme

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I wonder if the target of his civil lawsuit could have ratted him to the IRS and collected a whistleblower payment...

how much is that?

Apparently between 15 and 30 percent of the recovered proceeds:

> In general, the IRS will pay an award of at least 15 percent, but not more than 30 percent of the proceeds collected attributable to the information submitted by the whistleblower.

https://www.irs.gov/compliance/whistleblower-office

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