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Billing Engines Don't Solve Pricing Problems

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Re: Billing Engines Don't Solve Pricing Problems

#11

Concerned about the number of lightweight marketing blog posts making it to the front page of HN. It’s like it’s part of the “marketing to devs” playbook at this point.

fwiw this post was written entirely by Isaac. It's not ghost written or edited for marketing purposes. The title might be a bit catchy/glib.

Re: Billing Engines Don't Solve Pricing Problems

#13

A pricing SASS company without a pricing page? Umm?

We've been primarily OSS, so free.

We do have Tier Cloud with customers actively using it, but it has been invite only so far. It's a fair point though and I think we can put pricing up now in advance of making it publicly available.

Re: Billing Engines Don't Solve Pricing Problems

#14

My company is building in the same space as Tier - in fact our offering looks close to identical. The problem we've faced so far is catching buyers who want to solve this problem, the deeper, underlying issue, rather than the problem that's in front of their face. For technical contributors, they're usually tasked to throw up a paywall, and you can do that quickly and easily using your billing engine and some lightwe…

I've got agree with your comment about the business stakeholders. The uncertainties around pricing and (at the moment) the even trickier problem of price increases can lead to inaction.

Re: Billing Engines Don't Solve Pricing Problems

#15

Concerned about the number of lightweight marketing blog posts making it to the front page of HN. It’s like it’s part of the “marketing to devs” playbook at this point.

Is it really “lightweight”? Have you ever run a business and been responsible for pricing strategy? I have, and I thought the post made a good point—if pricing is tightly coupled to billing implementation, it discourages experimentation since pricing changes are technically non-trivial.

If you don’t relate to that, maybe the post just isn’t for you? HN is a forum for engineers and entrepreneurs—it’s run by a startup accelerator, after all. Not everything on it has to be purely technical.

Re: Billing Engines Don't Solve Pricing Problems

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post #11

Concerned about the number of lightweight marketing blog posts making it to the front page of HN. It’s like it’s part of the “marketing to devs” playbook at this point.

fwiw this post was written entirely by Isaac. It's not ghost written or edited for marketing purposes. The title might be a bit catchy/glib.

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Re: Billing Engines Don't Solve Pricing Problems

#18

Concerned about the number of lightweight marketing blog posts making it to the front page of HN. It’s like it’s part of the “marketing to devs” playbook at this point.

Is it really “lightweight”? Have you ever run a business and been responsible for pricing strategy? I have, and I thought the post made a good point—if pricing is tightly coupled to billing implementation, it discourages experimentation since pricing changes are technically non-trivial. If you don’t relate to that, maybe the post just isn’t for you? HN is a forum for engineers and entrepreneurs—it’s run by a startup…

None of that changes the fact that this is marketing for their product. Many similar posts have made the front page of HN recently and it’s getting a bit formulaic. It’s great that you like some of them, but are you ok with HN just being a bunch of covert marketing copy?

Re: Billing Engines Don't Solve Pricing Problems

#19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it really “lightweight”? Have you ever run a business and been responsible for pricing strategy? I have, and I thought the post made a good point—if pricing is tightly coupled to billing implementation, it discourages experimentation since pricing changes are technically non-trivial. If you don’t relate to that, maybe the post just isn’t for you? HN is a forum for engineers and entrepreneurs—it’s run by a startup…

None of that changes the fact that this is marketing for their product. Many similar posts have made the front page of HN recently and it’s getting a bit formulaic. It’s great that you like some of them, but are you ok with HN just being a bunch of covert marketing copy?

I don't see the issue here. They're solving a real problem for developers with their open-source solution and telling people about it.

Re: Billing Engines Don't Solve Pricing Problems

#20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it really “lightweight”? Have you ever run a business and been responsible for pricing strategy? I have, and I thought the post made a good point—if pricing is tightly coupled to billing implementation, it discourages experimentation since pricing changes are technically non-trivial. If you don’t relate to that, maybe the post just isn’t for you? HN is a forum for engineers and entrepreneurs—it’s run by a startup…

None of that changes the fact that this is marketing for their product. Many similar posts have made the front page of HN recently and it’s getting a bit formulaic. It’s great that you like some of them, but are you ok with HN just being a bunch of covert marketing copy?

Most content is marketing in some form. Would you complain about a developer who blogs about open source so they can get consulting projects or a job? If the content is good and I can learn something useful from it, it seems like a win-win.
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