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The importance of handwriting is now better understood

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Re: The importance of handwriting is now better understood

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I was terrible at handwriting (especially cursive) as a kid, absolutely hated it, and my teachers compensated by having me do more work on the computer. Fantastic outcome. No fusty article in the Economist could convince me that cursive handwriting is a skill worth saving. When it came to taking notes in college, I realized I was lousy at taking notes by hand, that I’d pay more attention to the lecturer and wind up w…

My parents (and one particular teacher) thought they could improve my handwriting by making me write the alphabet over and over.

It backfired, and my writing got worse. It was painful, not fun, and I didn't care about it. So my sloppy writing got sloppier the more I did it.

Now, I'm realizing that they all failed to teach me to write correctly, probably because they didn't actually know the difference. They all just remembered that their teachers had corrected bad penmanship that way, but without realizing that there was probably additional instruction involved in how to hold the pencil, and how to move the hand and arm properly to get good writing.

I've often thought about working on my handwriting, but there's very little benefit now other than personal pride, and I've got so many other things I want to do.

Re: The importance of handwriting is now better understood

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> One of the best-demonstrated advantages of writing by hand seems to be in superior note-taking. In a study from 2014 by Pam Mueller and Danny Oppenheimer, students typing wrote down almost twice as many words and more passages verbatim from lectures, suggesting they were not understanding so much as rapidly copying the material. > Handwriting—which takes longer for nearly all university-level students—forces note-takers to synthesise ideas into their own words.

If this is the best demonstration, it means there is no advantage - this is just an illustration of the awfully designed lecture system where any copying is required at all instead of having the full transcript readily available and spending the time to actually listen

Re: The importance of handwriting is now better understood

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Two things:

1. I get compliments about how nice my handwriting is.

2. It really does help me to remember details. I don't need to go back through my notes (I rarely do these days) but the mere fact of having written it down seems to lock it more tightly into my memory.

Maybe I'll setup a little, completely un-scaleable online service whereby I'll write a hand written letter and send it to a chosen address on behalf of anyone willing to pay.

No ransom notes.

Re: The importance of handwriting is now better understood

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post #17

I've direct experience on the power of handwriting to memorise concepts. When at the UNI, I was studying CS (while working part-time) less than 10 ya, and classes where full of laptops. I was take notes during lectures using only pen and paper and similarly I was taking my notes about the main concepts from the courses books. Then I was re-writing them again in a more summarised way, and then underline this notes and…

Now imagine the power where you can save time wasted on the initial copying and invested it in summarizing (which could also be faster to edit)

Re: The importance of handwriting is now better understood

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I think the real problem with handwriting is the way it has been thought in school. Growing up in mid 2000s Australia, I recall it being thought largely as a rote learning exercise in which one repeats the same letters over and over again without much context, which isn't a particularly exciting thing to do. (On the other hand I quickly learned to type fast as I enjoyed playing games + writing personal documents on my computer and wanted to do all of that as quickly as possible.)

The funny thing was that some years later in 2016, I became highly interested in learning other writing systems for fun (and which I talk about on a blog of mine at [1]), which eventually also evolved into a newfound obsession with handwriting that I still practice today. Its really changed the way I see the written word and is a good way to remind oneself how letters on a screen are really the culmination of a few thousand years of scribes iterating through the older sharp, rigid and awkward letters and gradually evolving them into smoother and more fluid forms which can be drawn much faster by hand.

[1]: https://alternatescriptbureau.wordpress.com

Re: The importance of handwriting is now better understood

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> probably sculpted by our evolution I can't really begin to imagine what selective pressure could realistically have acted on this, certainly given the tiny period of time over which any substantial percentage of the population would have been using their hands to store information in any way. If there's any correlation between use of computers and any loss of ability to memorise concepts (which I'm not convinced we…

There has been studies that proved that handwriting helps memorizing better than using a computer. The studies took a group of students, randomly assigned them handwriting/computers then they had a test to pass. Handwriting students performed better. The reason is that handwriting is slower, so it forces you to summarize and make decisions in your note taking. Selecting what's important. On the other hand typing is f…

So you only need to slow a person down to achieve the same effect, what's the value of handwriting?

Re: The importance of handwriting is now better understood

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post #17

I've direct experience on the power of handwriting to memorise concepts. When at the UNI, I was studying CS (while working part-time) less than 10 ya, and classes where full of laptops. I was take notes during lectures using only pen and paper and similarly I was taking my notes about the main concepts from the courses books. Then I was re-writing them again in a more summarised way, and then underline this notes and…

I don't really get how moving hands smoothly to write something versus tapping keys poses any large difference in memorization? For the us generations that grew up learning cursive and associating it with school it may be easier to remember that way, but if someone was raised by only typing from an early age it probably makes no difference. We're analog juvenoial dinosaurs living in a digital age we've only partially adapted to.

> this incredible ability of our brain to learn concepts from the small movement of our hands, probably sculpted by our evolution

There's no way that's true, it's only been around for 5000 years and for most of that time it was excluded to a narrow circle of scribes or scholars. Literacy has only been available to the masses for the past 200 years which is absolutely nothing on an evolutionary scale.

Re: The importance of handwriting is now better understood

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post #62

> One of the best-demonstrated advantages of writing by hand seems to be in superior note-taking. In a study from 2014 by Pam Mueller and Danny Oppenheimer, students typing wrote down almost twice as many words and more passages verbatim from lectures, suggesting they were not understanding so much as rapidly copying the material. > Handwriting—which takes longer for nearly all university-level students—forces note-t…

Not sure I agree. Most of my classes had recorded lectures and good notes from the TAs, but I still found taking hand written notes to be helpful. I even tried switch to a laptop then switched back after less than a semester.

Re: The importance of handwriting is now better understood

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post #62

> One of the best-demonstrated advantages of writing by hand seems to be in superior note-taking. In a study from 2014 by Pam Mueller and Danny Oppenheimer, students typing wrote down almost twice as many words and more passages verbatim from lectures, suggesting they were not understanding so much as rapidly copying the material. > Handwriting—which takes longer for nearly all university-level students—forces note-t…

Also to begin with having to shorten lecture material/notes on the spot because you can't write fast enough seems like a way to introduce errors. Not really superior.
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