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Re: Show HN: Tell YouTube Ads to Fuck Off

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Post by DrReachAround »

AuthorizedCust wrote: post #35
otteromkram wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How have you paid them with your lifetime (whatever that means)? Especially since you've been actively avoiding advertisements. Follow-up: If you like someone's YouTube content, how would you suggest they be compensated?

> If you like someone's YouTube content, how would you suggest they be compensated? Not my problem to solve. Perhaps content creators or those who host their content can find less offensive ways of monetizing?

Sure, they could charge you per view, which is being done indirectly now through ads. You're not entitled to free content no matter how much you think you are.

Re: Show HN: Tell YouTube Ads to Fuck Off

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Post by slau »

artursapek wrote: post #60
thefz wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. Youtube is an enormous data pool sitting on an even more enormous CDN, with all free content. Users have the choice to pay up or get served ads.

(Misread sorry)

I believe you critically misunderstood the point the person you replied to was making.

You’re all in violent agreement. Maybe drop the ad hominem.

Re: Show HN: Tell YouTube Ads to Fuck Off

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Post by DrReachAround »

Winsaucerer wrote: post #14
artursapek wrote: post #2

Pay for YouTube. It’s worth it.

It's so expensive. I have multiple people in the house, and I already pay for music with Apple. It's a big price to just get no ads and nothing else.

It's not "so expensive". It's a couple of cups of coffee from Starbucks, for 720 hours of content per month per person. Even if you factor in 8 hours a day of sleep you could watch it for 16 hours per day per person for one low price. That's about US$0.01 per hour.

Re: Show HN: Tell YouTube Ads to Fuck Off

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Post by Waterluvian »

artursapek wrote: post #59
Waterluvian wrote: post #50

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That’s the kind of comparison YouTube hopes you do. Compared to patronage systems, it’s a pittance. You may as well try to pay your favourite shows directly rather than give your money to Google and have them redistribute it on your behalf.

Google is providing a service here. I think people have gotten so used to the internet they forget the massive costs involved in running a website like YouTube.

The cable companies wish to convey the same.

Re: Show HN: Tell YouTube Ads to Fuck Off

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Post by carabiner »

slau wrote: post #62
artursapek wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(Misread sorry)

I believe you critically misunderstood the point the person you replied to was making. You’re all in violent agreement. Maybe drop the ad hominem.

He's making 3 statements and people are agreeing/disagreeing with each separately:

1. Am I the only one that is a little turned off

2. how everyone feels

3. they deserve everything for free?

It's complicated the fact that some of these are negating statements where agreement is expressed by a "no."

Re: Show HN: Tell YouTube Ads to Fuck Off

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Post by Nextgrid »

thefz wrote: post #52
sun_har wrote: post #31

Am I the only one that is a little turned off by how everyone feels they deserve everything for free?

No. Youtube is an enormous data pool sitting on an even more enormous CDN, with all free content. Users have the choice to pay up or get served ads.

I'm more than happy to be served ads, I'll just make sure my user-agent hides them from me like it hides all kinds of other spam.

Re: Show HN: Tell YouTube Ads to Fuck Off

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Post by Nextgrid »

thrownaway561 wrote: post #34
sun_har wrote: post #31

Am I the only one that is a little turned off by how everyone feels they deserve everything for free?

no... you are not... without some sort of revenue, youtube would go away and then what?

Something else less greedy would surely take its place.

Re: Show HN: Tell YouTube Ads to Fuck Off

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Post by Nextgrid »

DrReachAround wrote: post #61
AuthorizedCust wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you like someone's YouTube content, how would you suggest they be compensated? Not my problem to solve. Perhaps content creators or those who host their content can find less offensive ways of monetizing?

Sure, they could charge you per view, which is being done indirectly now through ads. You're not entitled to free content no matter how much you think you are.

I'm absolutely entitled to whatever bytes some server is happy to send to my machine. It's up to my machine to then decide which ones of those bytes to actually turn into light and sound.

Re: Show HN: Tell YouTube Ads to Fuck Off

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Post by Winsaucerer »

DrReachAround wrote: post #63
Winsaucerer wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's so expensive. I have multiple people in the house, and I already pay for music with Apple. It's a big price to just get no ads and nothing else.

It's not "so expensive". It's a couple of cups of coffee from Starbucks, for 720 hours of content per month per person. Even if you factor in 8 hours a day of sleep you could watch it for 16 hours per day per person for one low price. That's about US$0.01 per hour.

I obviously don't watch anywhere near as much YouTube as you do.

The price is higher than I pay for any other streaming service. I don't drink coffee, but a quick look suggests it's 4 to 6 cups of Starbucks coffee here in Australia.

I remind again that this is the price I'd need to pay for my household, not just one individual (just like the other streaming services I subscribe to which is used by the whole household).

Re: Show HN: Tell YouTube Ads to Fuck Off

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Post by pastacacioepepe »

infecto wrote: post #48
pastacacioepepe wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Am I the only one that is a little turned off by how everything nice on Earth needs to be monetized to death? It's not like Youtube isn't profitable already.

I don't think its a good argument to say "because x is profitable they should not do y". Sure I can dream of a world where actors do not try to extract profit where possible but its not realstic. Whats the alternative?

State funded services. By now it's clear that platforms like YouTube and Twitter are integral parts of our lives, even used by institutions to release official statements and by media to publish news.

Why then should we leave such important services in the hands of a handful of investors who's only interest is increasing the profit margins?

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