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Show HN: Tell YouTube Ads to Fuck Off

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Re: Show HN: Tell YouTube Ads to Fuck Off

#41
You know there aren't ads if you actually pay for it right?

I agree the ads are obnoxious, but hosting YouTube is incredibly expensive, and online ads are incredibly cheap so... Even if they _weren't_ being greedy there would need to be A LOT of ads to compensate for the hosting & engineering costs.

Like... If you hate the ads THAT MUCH, but want to continue using the service, why not just pay for the service?

(side note: you also get streaming music (YouTube Music) when you pay for YouTube which is a nice bonus.)

Re: Show HN: Tell YouTube Ads to Fuck Off

#43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If only YouTube gave the creators a reasonable share.

From my knowledge a lot of YouTubers get paid by advertisers and they don't even let the viewers know. The single view is not much worth - I estimate the streaming costs are quite high (think of all the bandwith you need for 4k/8k streaming with low latency). Sadly I couldn't find numbers for YT profit.

Here is a solution: make high res streaming separate price tier, or remove it.

Re: Show HN: Tell YouTube Ads to Fuck Off

#44
YouTube charge different amounts for Premium in different currencies.

If you appear to be purchasing from Turkey (Türkiye), for example, then you’ll only be paying 29.99 Turkish Lira, or about £0.90, per month.

Well worth it for an ad-free experience (and picture-in-picture) in the native app imo.

Re: Show HN: Tell YouTube Ads to Fuck Off

#45
post #31

Am I the only one that is a little turned off by how everyone feels they deserve everything for free?

Am I the only one that is a little turned off by how everything nice on Earth needs to be monetized to death? It's not like Youtube isn't profitable already.

Re: Show HN: Tell YouTube Ads to Fuck Off

#46

You know there aren't ads if you actually pay for it right? I agree the ads are obnoxious, but hosting YouTube is incredibly expensive, and online ads are incredibly cheap so... Even if they _weren't_ being greedy there would need to be A LOT of ads to compensate for the hosting & engineering costs. Like... If you hate the ads THAT MUCH, but want to continue using the service, why not just pay for the service? (side…

But you're not just paying for the bandwidth. You're paying for the bandwidth that used by others who use ad blockers too.

It's a prisoners dilemma. The honest ones (who pay for YouTube premium) lost the most.

Re: Show HN: Tell YouTube Ads to Fuck Off

#47
Whats the alternative to YouTube then? I get it, some people really don't like ads and especially do not like Google's data collection tactics. Whats the alternative then, in the YouTube model they need to pay the creator, pay for the associated costs of running the site and pay themselves. Lets not even go down the road that they already make so much money that they could play less ads or do xyz, I don't think that is a constructive argument.

I learned of an alternative recently, Nebula. One issue there is discovery, I consume a bit of youtube and had never heard of it before. The only reason I noticed it was Strange Parts mentioned it in his last episode and that he posted a new video there that will not show up on youtube for a bit. The first problem is discovery. YouTube is really great for content creators as they can get discovered with the massive amount of viewership.

The second problem is how much it pays. I tried to get a better idea of Nebula's model but this recent thread with the founder really did not answer the question for me. Felt like a redirection then just getting down into the economics of it. I would be curious what the actual per viewer income is between the two. We can immediately assume though that YouTube is paying more in total. They have the network with all the viewers.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Nebula/comments/16qeup8/does_nebula...

At the end of the day I would happily use something else but imo there really is nothing else that exactly serves the purpose. The majority of content creators are on YouTube in some form with only a very minority that have totally left it and done their own thing.

Re: Show HN: Tell YouTube Ads to Fuck Off

#48
post #31

Am I the only one that is a little turned off by how everyone feels they deserve everything for free?

Am I the only one that is a little turned off by how everything nice on Earth needs to be monetized to death? It's not like Youtube isn't profitable already.

I don't think its a good argument to say "because x is profitable they should not do y". Sure I can dream of a world where actors do not try to extract profit where possible but its not realstic.

Whats the alternative?

Re: Show HN: Tell YouTube Ads to Fuck Off

#49
post #12

What ads is he talking about?

The ones that are so offensive to Hacker News commenters that they will rail wildly against them, call YouTube’s business practices scummy because of them, and make a new hobby of blocking them rather than pay $14 a month for YouTube Premium.

I havent seen an advertisement on YT in about 20 years. Did none of these people ever heard of uBlock Origin?

Re: Show HN: Tell YouTube Ads to Fuck Off

#50
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If only YouTube gave the creators a reasonable share.

They do, AFAIK creators get much more money from Premium viewers than ad-supported viewers. And not just relatively, sometimes in absolute numbers as well.

That’s the kind of comparison YouTube hopes you do.

Compared to patronage systems, it’s a pittance. You may as well try to pay your favourite shows directly rather than give your money to Google and have them redistribute it on your behalf.

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