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Wales' 20mph speed limit: How has the first month gone?

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Re: Wales' 20mph speed limit: How has the first month gone?

#22
I find it amusing how they did not interview one single person who thought he or she might just choose a different way of transportation, instead of driving a car, unless absolutely necessary.

I used to commute in the north between two mid-sized cities, and any time I checked taking the car instead of the combined bike+rail travel would not have been faster, only much more inconvenient and more expensive (parking costs a lot, and not always easy to find...).

Today we have e-bikes and scooters, so hilly terrain is not a problem anymore. What I do think IS a problem is driving is still way too cheap in the UK, compared to other transportation methods.

Re: Wales' 20mph speed limit: How has the first month gone?

#23
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thats factually incorrect. The uk has the third largest number of speed cameras in europe, below only russia and italy. It’s quite annoying having cameras everywhere frankly.

> It’s quite annoying having cameras everywhere frankly. Why?

I suspect they mean the number of CCTV cameras in the UK rather than road safety cameras specifically. If you are concerned about the erosion of privacy in public spaces then that would be a valid point.

Re: Wales' 20mph speed limit: How has the first month gone?

#24
Central government has said they want to be pro "the motorist" and constantly threaten the BBC / put GB News types in charge and now we get articles like this.

This is worse than the both sidesism of before, this is like reading an article from any of the right wing press.

Re: Wales' 20mph speed limit: How has the first month gone?

#25
Every car sold at the moment lowers the speed shown on the speedometer algorithmically. Therefore I can believe that although 20mph=32kph and I have problems reaching 32kph constantly on a gravel bike - when cars go 20mph they will go probably around 27kph which is the speed I can maintain on my bicycle.

For something different - cars going at slow speeds emit more fumes and consume more fuel.

Re: Wales' 20mph speed limit: How has the first month gone?

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post #3

Anyone able to translate this? "If someone is doing 20, you have a proper tailback." Specifically a "proper tailback"

A tailback is a traffic jam / queue. A "proper tailback" is a really big traffic jam. "Proper" in this context basically means big or major.

Though it's a tailback of people who plan to exceed 20mph, otherwise how is it a tailback?

Re: Wales' 20mph speed limit: How has the first month gone?

#28
If only speed limits were designed so that breaking them always equates "reckless driving", and not sometimes (often, here) "driving at a completely normal speed considering the surrounding environment".

inb4 pitchfork raising amongst the anti-car rabble

Re: Wales' 20mph speed limit: How has the first month gone?

#29
post #5
post #3

Anyone able to translate this? "If someone is doing 20, you have a proper tailback." Specifically a "proper tailback"

A tailback is a traffic jam / queue. A "proper tailback" is a really big traffic jam. "Proper" in this context basically means big or major.

As a foreigner, I love British English. It's like a puzzle to me every time. Words that I have used many times, but in different meanings.

Re: Wales' 20mph speed limit: How has the first month gone?

#30
As a cyclist (and a driver) in a city in England; this can't come to the rest of the UK fast enough. I see it as a failure of public policy, and a necessary result.

Our streets are not designed for safe cycling and our public transport infrastructure is poor, at best. So the only way we can improve safety for cyclists and pedestrians is to reduce speed limits for cars across the board.

The political will to improve road/pavement safety for pedestrians and cyclists is not there (there's a war on motorists, apparently?) so while cyclists have to (by law) use public roads then we have to reduce car speed limits to make it safe.

Most modern cars have cruise control that work at 20mph, so the argument that it's difficult to stick to 20mph is lazy and incorrect. Studies out of Wales say that it adds approximately 30 seconds per journey and one of the quotes in this article _quoted a woman who does not drive!_

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