Ok, so dumb question, how many crimes in the US have used a 3d printed gun?
This seems like a genuine question, why was it flagged?
NY Bill Would Require Background Checks to Buy 3D Printers
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Re: NY Bill Would Require Background Checks to Buy 3D Printers
#32Chris Rock solved this ages ago: "We don't have a gun problem, we have a bullet problem." Make bullets very expensive and hard to get. It makes much more sense to control the supply of gunpowder (and bullets) than that of 3d printers (or guns for that matter).
I agree it's worth the legal debate, we have plenty of laws around controlled substances living on the fringes of constitutionality, why not add gunpowder as a schedule 2 substance?
you presume this is something people even want
at a minimum, this would not be seen as acceptable in the "constitutional carry" states - half of the country
Re: NY Bill Would Require Background Checks to Buy 3D Printers
#33A lot of people forget that the word "press" in the phrase "freedom of the press" refers to an actual printing press, not the modern term that people confuse for corporate journalism. The 3D printing presses should remain equally free. If and when someone commits a crime with a piece of technology, that is when to charge them. We should not normalize the presumption of criminal intent, nor restrict even those that ha…
> A lot of people forget that the word "press" in the phrase "freedom of the press" refers to an actual printing press, not the modern term that people confuse for corporate journalism. That's an ancient document written by people who couldn't even concieve of modern day "assualt" style printers. We need common sense 3D printer control. There is no reason any person would ever need more than 4kg of filament, these hi…
I suppose to start. How many have? This seems to be a fairly low effectiveness effort with lots of collateral damage to address a real issue of people getting guns and taking a trip to a school. Which doesn't require 3d printers.
Re: NY Bill Would Require Background Checks to Buy 3D Printers
#34A lot of people forget that the word "press" in the phrase "freedom of the press" refers to an actual printing press, not the modern term that people confuse for corporate journalism. The 3D printing presses should remain equally free. If and when someone commits a crime with a piece of technology, that is when to charge them. We should not normalize the presumption of criminal intent, nor restrict even those that ha…
> A lot of people forget that the word "press" in the phrase "freedom of the press" refers to an actual printing press, not the modern term that people confuse for corporate journalism. That's an ancient document written by people who couldn't even concieve of modern day "assualt" style printers. We need common sense 3D printer control. There is no reason any person would ever need more than 4kg of filament, these hi…
I hope you dropped your /s somewhere.
Re: NY Bill Would Require Background Checks to Buy 3D Printers
#35A lot of people forget that the word "press" in the phrase "freedom of the press" refers to an actual printing press, not the modern term that people confuse for corporate journalism. The 3D printing presses should remain equally free. If and when someone commits a crime with a piece of technology, that is when to charge them. We should not normalize the presumption of criminal intent, nor restrict even those that ha…
> A lot of people forget that the word "press" in the phrase "freedom of the press" refers to an actual printing press, not the modern term that people confuse for corporate journalism. That's an ancient document written by people who couldn't even concieve of modern day "assualt" style printers. We need common sense 3D printer control. There is no reason any person would ever need more than 4kg of filament, these hi…
Let us be clear here I'm down voting because that much of dripping sarcasm just gets people emotional and doesn't help anything. Feel free to make a cohesive argument one way or another:). Long sarcasm tirades assume other side is wrong and stupid and aren't helpful.
(I'm on your side, btw fwiw! But I still don't like dripping sarcasm insinuating other perspectives are clearly stupid!:)
Re: NY Bill Would Require Background Checks to Buy 3D Printers
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree it's worth the legal debate, we have plenty of laws around controlled substances living on the fringes of constitutionality, why not add gunpowder as a schedule 2 substance?
you presume this is something people even want at a minimum, this would not be seen as acceptable in the "constitutional carry" states - half of the country
I presume that some people didn't want marijuana to be schedule 1 federally, but here we are 60 years later, and gunpowder as a substance has killed far more people than marijuana in that time.
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
If we get to the point where we are able to 3D print 20 MT nuclear weapons we've probably got replicators from star trek at that point living in a post scarcity society and then I will be 3D printing me a space ship to "Boldly go where no man has gone before."
I'm not sure what the HN guidelines are for commenting about other comments but if your earlier comment was in jest/sarcasm, it might help to add an /s
Or you could use your interpreting skills to detect it yourself.
Re: NY Bill Would Require Background Checks to Buy 3D Printers
#38Ok, so dumb question, how many crimes in the US have used a 3d printed gun?
Statistically?
Zero.
Re: NY Bill Would Require Background Checks to Buy 3D Printers
#39That's wild man. They should track people that buy pipes and a hacksaw from home depot. Could be a gun, don't know.
Lets play a game of "handyman or domestic terrorist"
Re: NY Bill Would Require Background Checks to Buy 3D Printers
#40Per the article, the consequences would restrict almost all 3D printing in the state. Would they require background checks on people who previously bought 3D printers? What if you go to another state with a prepaid card... Will they search your cars traveling interstate? Comb through your transactions and contacts?
>Would they require background checks on people who previously bought 3D printers?
They do for guns, why should this be any different? It's possible that someone became a felon since they got their last 3d printer, and the cops wont necessarily check if someone is on the 3D printer owner registey when they arrest someone (if such a registrt will be created?)
Plus when they eventually implement a 10 day waiting period for 3d printer purchases, I doubt people who already have a printer will be exempt (except maybe cops?)