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Roundup herbicide ingredient connected to epidemic chronic kidney disease
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Re: Roundup herbicide ingredient connected to epidemic chronic kidney disease
#92Remember when Bayer (who now owns Monsanto) intentionally sold HIV infected blood in South America? The people that own these companies would sell their own grandmother for $5. They’re poisoning the world, as science and litigation they couldn’t buy their way out of has evidenced, and we get people on here “hacktually”ing their defense. Glyphosate is used for only one reason, it’s profitable for Monsanto.
Glyphosate is used because it works.
Re: Roundup herbicide ingredient connected to epidemic chronic kidney disease
#93Let's just take a pause and consider some key information: -This is an association study -If we CTLR+F "cause", "causing", "causal", etc, the only mention of causation is with extremely high levels of flouride and another mention with extremely high levels of glyphosate and zebrafish Now let's zoom way out, and consider the use of glyphosate in general. If you plot grain yields over time compared to herbicide use ove…
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Re: Roundup herbicide ingredient connected to epidemic chronic kidney disease
#94it's doubly stupid because you can eat dandelions which are one of the many "weeds" people kill with this shit to protect their useless-at-best lawns. kill your lawn. plant native shit.
I need a ground cover my kids can play on. Clover is a really nice option. The tragedy is that it spreads like a weed, which means my neighbours must accept my choice or install some ridiculous barriers, harming the existing characteristic of us all using each other’s lawn as a common play area. It would be nice if clover was just kind of the de facto standard.
Re: Roundup herbicide ingredient connected to epidemic chronic kidney disease
#95Remember when Bayer (who now owns Monsanto) intentionally sold HIV infected blood in South America? The people that own these companies would sell their own grandmother for $5. They’re poisoning the world, as science and litigation they couldn’t buy their way out of has evidenced, and we get people on here “hacktually”ing their defense. Glyphosate is used for only one reason, it’s profitable for Monsanto.
I don't think it's quite as clear as you put it, and Bayer was by no means the worst offender in this regard. Other related scandals are linked to at the bottom of the Wikipedia page, and the Canadian Red Cross (for example) seems to have behaved even more negligently.
Re: Roundup herbicide ingredient connected to epidemic chronic kidney disease
#96Remember when Bayer (who now owns Monsanto) intentionally sold HIV infected blood in South America? The people that own these companies would sell their own grandmother for $5. They’re poisoning the world, as science and litigation they couldn’t buy their way out of has evidenced, and we get people on here “hacktually”ing their defense. Glyphosate is used for only one reason, it’s profitable for Monsanto.
Glyphosate is used because it works.
Re: Roundup herbicide ingredient connected to epidemic chronic kidney disease
#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is fluoride in drinking water toxic? I thought they added it on purpose to help our teeth or something
Fluoride in drinking water is a kind of truly marginal level of harm that’s perfectly designed to trigger paranoid libertarians. A tiny amount of fluoride is helpful for bones and especially teeth. Fluoridated toothpaste covers this need perfectly, but many people don’t use it. Fluoride in drinking water covers this need also but (arguably) brings along small risks of symptoms of slight excess fluoride consumption. T…
https://www.cdc.gov/fluoridation/index.html
https://www.cdc.gov/fluoridation/basics/cost.htm
You'll notice one key thing is missing: Side by side comparison with communities that don't have fluoride in their water. That could be other countries. Or better, rural US communities that for the most part use well water. Those controls exist.
Note: Better diet also has an impact on oral health, and diet over the last 75 years has also improved.
I'm not saying not including that comparison is wrong, but as "the science" goes, it does feel odd that something so obvious is not included.
Re: Roundup herbicide ingredient connected to epidemic chronic kidney disease
#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you measure concerning levels of glyphosate in the pre-filtration water? I've always been curious about this for the sake of my friends who live in rural areas near pesticide dependent farmers.
I send both a sample of raw water right off the well pump before going through any filtration as well as a sample of the filtered water that has gone through a 50 micron spin down filter, an iron and hydrogen sulfide filter, and then a three stage cartridge filter system (containing a 1 micron sediment filter, heavy metals filter, and active carbon filter), the output of which gets sent off as water supply to fixture…
Go on.
Re: Roundup herbicide ingredient connected to epidemic chronic kidney disease
#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
Linked to Parkinsons and cancer. And it's still for sale next to fertilizer in the home box store so you can spray your yard and poison your family.
I'm really cagey about using chemical pesticide/herbicides but Roundup will probably still be my first choice if I have to use it. It _still_ seems less bad than any of the alternatives.
I use Roundup very carefully to manage bindweed and Bermuda grass. It's the only method practical for home scale and timeline.
It should not be used indiscriminately at industrial scale, where cultural practices are more appropriate and important.