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Re: LinkedIn is laying off nearly 700 employees

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Post by Barrin92 »

GMoromisato wrote: post #83

I agree with all the takes about LinkedIn turning into a bad social network, but is that intrinsic to its design or is it something that happens no matter what? Is there a way to design a site--at the UI/policy level--to end up with a community that doesn't suck? For Hacker News, for example, is what we like about it just a consequence of the current set of members (in which, case, it might change eventually), or is…

it's both. Human moderation will always be an important factor. If you want larger communities to work well you need to put a proportionate effort of human attention in to maintain it, including bottom-up from users. Bot-autocracy is bad not just because it doesn't work well but also because it makes people feel alienated.

And the design is important too. There's no followers here, no monetization, no flashy upvote count, essentially no identity with a capital I. HN and sites like it work to a large part because there's no status or financial grift involved in posting, people largely just post to communicate. The exact opposite of what Twitter is turning into.

Re: LinkedIn is laying off nearly 700 employees

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Post by GMoromisato »

nlh wrote: post #114
GMoromisato wrote: post #83

I agree with all the takes about LinkedIn turning into a bad social network, but is that intrinsic to its design or is it something that happens no matter what? Is there a way to design a site--at the UI/policy level--to end up with a community that doesn't suck? For Hacker News, for example, is what we like about it just a consequence of the current set of members (in which, case, it might change eventually), or is…

I think it’s an intrinsic byproduct of any site/community that puts an algorithmic feed optimized for “engagement” front and center. By our nature, we engage with things that ping our extreme senses, which is the core reason Facebook and Twitter have gone to complete crap. Clickbait is truly bait and we are just angry raging fish if baited sufficiently. I think it’s absolutely possible to have a community that doesn’…

Well said. I think HN has two qualities that make it work:

1. No need to drive engagement. 2. Heavy moderation to keep things on track.

#2 won't work without #1 because of what you said (the nature of getting engagement).

But is there some way for moderation to scale? Maybe this is where LLMs come in?

Ironically, LinkedIn should be the one experimenting with this. If they can get revenue from recruiters or job seekers, then they don't need the toxic kind of engagement.

Re: LinkedIn is laying off nearly 700 employees

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Post by colinrand »

Has anyone else noticed that their connection count stays 'correct' but a significant number of people that I used to be connected to now are surfaced as recommendations for me to connect with? It's absurd! I doubt people regularly go through their networks and unconnect from people that they don't want to keep in touch with, kind of defeats the purpose. So wth?

Re: LinkedIn is laying off nearly 700 employees

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Post by DiggyJohnson »

vagab0nd wrote: post #20
nostrademons wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it actually an audience if nobody's viewing it?

I need to get it out anyway. If there's a better option I'd use it.

If it’s not causing you any issues then I’m sure it’s fine, but this seems like an abuse of the word ‘need’.

Re: LinkedIn is laying off nearly 700 employees

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Post by spacemadness »

DoesntMatter22 wrote: post #103
spacemadness wrote: post #86

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It’s been like this for many years now. I can’t really remember it otherwise. I’ve lost respect for some colleagues after seeing all the self congratulatory posting that exaggerates what happened and long-winded work stories on their profiles. I’m done with giving folks a pass at this stage on their Linkedin ladder climbing nonsense. Like most social media it’s a giant circlejerk just with a white collar lean.

I think it's even worse than that. I've seen a lot of crazy political discussions there where people, fully identifiable, are just losing their minds, saying racist stuff even. I have no idea why people would be willing to risk their jobs like that but I see people from Fortune 50 companies doing it. Crazy

That is something. I stopped reading it entirely sometime last year but don’t recall the crazy uncle effect. What was mentioned sounded similar to what I experienced, including the memes—-but I didn’t realize it was sinking so low in becoming Reddit on a bad day without the anonymity.

Re: LinkedIn is laying off nearly 700 employees

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Post by Hamuko »

confidantlake wrote: post #129
btgeekboy wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are monthly who’s hiring and who wants to be hired threads that seem to fill that niche.

I tend to see the same stuff over and over again. For example one place has been hiring their third engineer for the last 3 years. But I suppose every job site is like this.

If they've been trying to fill a single position for three years, I imagine they've tried other mediums too and the problem isn't just where they're posting the ad.

Re: LinkedIn is laying off nearly 700 employees

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Post by fknorangesite »

gardenhedge wrote: post #128

The most surprising thing is that there's people who think LinkedIn used to be good. It was built by spamming people and grabbing contact books without consent. It's always been trash.

Right? There's a reason for all those old "I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn" memes. e.g., https://i.imgur.com/hwfYhHz.jpg
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