What next, they'll ban transporting 3D printers across state borders and have the cops go around knocking down doors hunting for unlicensed 3D printers? Otherwise people would just buy them interstate.
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#32I should buy a 3D printer. At university I knew a man who said any time the government wanted to make something illegal to buy he felt a compulsion to buy it. I think I see what he means now.
It's definitely not a bad time to join 3d printing industry. Much more mature than what it was even 5+ yrs ago
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#33Are there any documented cases of people actually committing crimes with a 3D printed firearm?
Ghost gun use in U.S. crimes has risen more than 1,000% since 2017, federal report says : https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ghost-gun-use-crimes-1000-perce... Number of 3D-printed ghost guns soaring in New York : https://abc7ny.com/nyc-ghost-guns-3d-printed-printer/1334500... 3D Printed Gun Arrests Tripled in Less Than Two Years – 3DPrint.com Investigates : https://3dprint.com/291684/3d-printed-gun-arrests-tripled-in...
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's definitely not a bad time to join 3d printing industry. Much more mature than what it was even 5+ yrs ago
What is a good 3D printer?
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#36The VORON printers for example, and they're beastly printers. They should appeal to the HN audience as they're completely open source and moddable.
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#37The proposal is for 3D printers that are capable of printing a firearm, or firearm component. Which is actually really broad. From what I can find, NY law doesn't define "firearm component", but it does define "major firearm component" to include "barrel, slide, cylinder, frame or receiver". And I imagine pretty much any decent 3d printer can print a receiver for a gun designed to be 3d printed...
At that point it seems simpler to turn a couple of sticks and some string into a bow and arrow.
It's time that New York bans hardware stores, obviously.
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#38You don't have to buy a 3D printer, you can build one using off-the-shelf components and printed parts. The VORON printers for example, and they're beastly printers. They should appeal to the HN audience as they're completely open source and moddable.
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#39That amendment is so overly broad the author should be forced to re-take some sort of how to draft bills class. It would require fingerprinting for purchases of "certain 3D printers". What does that even mean? I guess the existing law defined what "firearm" means in the context of that law, but if I was a retailer selling 3D printers, I would have some serious questions about it. My 5-year-old entry level 3D printer…
I do want to point out that if you want to make durable parts with a 3D printer, the easiest thing to do would be to create the part with the printer, then use it to form a mold for casting the part out of metal. Then case harden. That's the cheap and fairly easy way. I just want to point that out because I think that use case of 3D printers gets overlooked. Or you buy a fairly expensive lathe/mill.
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#40Are there any documented cases of people actually committing crimes with a 3D printed firearm?
They are used to convert semi-automatic Glock handguns to fully automatic (which is illegal without a tax stamp).
They are very popular with criminals (typically gangs) in the US[1].