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Atlassian prepares to abandon on-prem server products

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Re: Atlassian prepares to abandon on-prem server products

#11
Jira/Confluence are two products that have gotten markedly slower and slower over time and as they've moved into the cloud.

I observe load times that remind me of the 90s sometimes using their cloud apps.

Incredible they are killing on-prem, but maybe it makes it harder to compare to the slow as molasses cloud offering that way?

Re: Atlassian prepares to abandon on-prem server products

#12
Using Atlassian cloud products is a business risk. They previously let customers sit for weeks without access to their data [1]. Cloud-hosted products do get early patches for unsecured /setup routes though [2], so there's that.

At this point the decision has been made in our org to firewall their products off the internet and internal networks, and migrate to something else by 2024.

[1] https://hn.algolia.com/?q=atlassian

[2] https://confluence.atlassian.com/security/cve-2023-22515-pri...

Re: Atlassian prepares to abandon on-prem server products

#14

Jira/Confluence are two products that have gotten markedly slower and slower over time and as they've moved into the cloud. I observe load times that remind me of the 90s sometimes using their cloud apps. Incredible they are killing on-prem, but maybe it makes it harder to compare to the slow as molasses cloud offering that way?

I have the opposite experience; many if not most of the features have gotten faster as the features have expanded in capability

Re: Atlassian prepares to abandon on-prem server products

#16

Jira/Confluence are two products that have gotten markedly slower and slower over time and as they've moved into the cloud. I observe load times that remind me of the 90s sometimes using their cloud apps. Incredible they are killing on-prem, but maybe it makes it harder to compare to the slow as molasses cloud offering that way?

I have the opposite experience; many if not most of the features have gotten faster as the features have expanded in capability

> as the features have expanded in capability

Yet I still cannot import anything like in the old editor (e.g. markdown), adding images in lists was added two years after forcing switching to the new editor and you still cannot continue numbered lists in another item line and have to start over.

Extensions exist to do this but these things should be standard in any editor.

Re: Atlassian prepares to abandon on-prem server products

#18

Last year I was second guessing myself if migration to Gitlab EE from Jira, Bitbucket and Jenkins would be worth it, as it was a massive shift for my org. Maybe purchasing a DC version of Atlassian products would be a better alternative, but after short look into invoices and licensing it was decided to go forward with Gitlab. Still not a big fan of how stiff Yaml pipelines feel in Gitlab CI and that tickets for what…

At a couple startups, I've promoted a mantra of "everything goes into GitLab".

If some information is not in GitLab Git and CI, it should be in GitLab Issues or (ugly) GitLab Wiki.

Those 4 words avoid a lot of problems. Including avoiding a proliferation of silo'd and leaked and lost information in numerous different SaaSes, apps/programs, and storage services that people will tend to do by default.

Re: Atlassian prepares to abandon on-prem server products

#19
The problem with Jira is that we don't have many alternatives at enterprise level. Maybe for smaller teams (I had a lot of hopes for Github Issues [0] but since they announced the product on last year's Universe event, there were not many news. Maybe this November they will come back with an update.

At this point, I feel Jira is like WordPress. It maybe slow and overbloated, but you can have absolutely any plugin and/or integration you can think of.

[0] https://github.com/features/issues

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