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Tech giants are hijacking the internet

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Re: Tech giants are hijacking the internet

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Post by squarefoot »

bullen wrote: post #16

These are the symptoms. The diseases are centrally controlled IP, DNS and root certificates. The removal attempt of HTTP/1.1 is the biggest censorship in history. The only way to fight back is to self host DNS, HTTP and SMTP at home.

> The only way to fight back is to self host DNS, HTTP and SMTP at home.

Agreed, but DNS at least needs to be shared via encrypted p2p, to avoid congesting someones broadband with million requests and prevent the inevitable hijacking by malicious actors.

Re: Tech giants are hijacking the internet

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Post by arran-nz »

nologic01 wrote: post #23

Well DW could do something about it by at least adding the fediverse on their abominable "follow us on X, Y, Z". DW does not even have an RSS feed for chris sake. The press is complicit in the hijacking of the internet. They made a Faustian pact. Now they are crying foul.

They recently joined, here's their verified account:

https://mastodon.social/@dw_innovation

Re: Tech giants are hijacking the internet

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Post by Blaiz0r »

binchol wrote: post #30
nologic01 wrote: post #23

Well DW could do something about it by at least adding the fediverse on their abominable "follow us on X, Y, Z". DW does not even have an RSS feed for chris sake. The press is complicit in the hijacking of the internet. They made a Faustian pact. Now they are crying foul.

Why would they bother adding the fediverse, it's mostly useless, would provide no benefit to them, and they'd probably get defederated eventually for publishing something someone doesn't like.

Says you.

Some media companies are experimenting with it right now: https://www.bbc.com/rd/blog/2023-07-mastodon-distributed-dec...

It makes sense for media companies to self host.

Re: Tech giants are hijacking the internet

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Post by nologic01 »

binchol wrote: post #30
nologic01 wrote: post #23

Well DW could do something about it by at least adding the fediverse on their abominable "follow us on X, Y, Z". DW does not even have an RSS feed for chris sake. The press is complicit in the hijacking of the internet. They made a Faustian pact. Now they are crying foul.

Why would they bother adding the fediverse, it's mostly useless, would provide no benefit to them, and they'd probably get defederated eventually for publishing something someone doesn't like.

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Re: Tech giants are hijacking the internet

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Post by nologic01 »

marban wrote: post #29
nologic01 wrote: post #23

Well DW could do something about it by at least adding the fediverse on their abominable "follow us on X, Y, Z". DW does not even have an RSS feed for chris sake. The press is complicit in the hijacking of the internet. They made a Faustian pact. Now they are crying foul.

They have plenty of feeds.

Where exactly? Visible through your rose tinted glasses? There is no visual hint on the page (RSS has a well established logo) and my rss reader does not autodiscover it from the main page.

Re: Tech giants are hijacking the internet

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Post by thfuran »

nologic01 wrote: post #24
charcircuit wrote: post #7

Big tech is big because they built sustainable products that appeal to billions of people. There was no hijacking. Anyone can still make their own site and become popular. TikTok was able to become the number one site despite not being from big tech.

These "products" are built on deceit. They are only sustainable due to regulatory capture. There has never been so much wealth and power amassed (legally) by exploiting the cracks of governance.

The Dutch East India Company was still bigger.

Re: Tech giants are hijacking the internet

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Post by HenryBemis »

nottheengineer wrote: post #6
quaintdev wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OP is being sarcastic. The article is very recent.

But unfortunately it says nothing that couldn't have been said 10 years ago.

In my current job I was discussing with a C-person and they were expressing their worries about "Microsoft Cloud" taking cover of everything, and how 'we' could reverse that without crippling the business.. to which I answered that we are past the point of no return, and this is a dialogue that we should have had 3-4 years ago. But when this was discussed everybody was 'thrilled' to have a solution up and running in Y time at Z cost instead of alternatives with 3xY time and 3xZ cost.

That hindsight is always 2020 (semi-related - https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/875:_2009_Called)

Re: Tech giants are hijacking the internet

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Post by nologic01 »

thfuran wrote: post #37
nologic01 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These "products" are built on deceit. They are only sustainable due to regulatory capture. There has never been so much wealth and power amassed (legally) by exploiting the cracks of governance.

The Dutch East India Company was still bigger.

they were indeed bigger, but there wasn't much of professed governance back then besides the power of the gunboats.

Re: Tech giants are hijacking the internet

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Post by 1vuio0pswjnm7 »

nologic01 wrote: post #23

Well DW could do something about it by at least adding the fediverse on their abominable "follow us on X, Y, Z". DW does not even have an RSS feed for chris sake. The press is complicit in the hijacking of the internet. They made a Faustian pact. Now they are crying foul.

This type of internet forum reply is so commmon there is a name for it and even a Wikipedia page.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

The "whatabout" type replies would seem to require that the only websites that can report on the ills of the internet are ones that have no ads, no tracking, no telemetry, no data collection, and so on. Everything must be perfect. That's a bit silly. Shooting the messenger.

Arguably, it does not really matter who is delivering the message. It's the message that matters.

It's not too difficult to transform sitemap XML into RSS.

https://www.dw.com/en/news-sitemap.xml

https://www.dw.com/en/article-sitemap.xml

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