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Yahoo’s Mojito is Now Open Source

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Re: Yahoo’s Mojito is Now Open Source

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Post by debacle »

dmethvin wrote: post #11
debacle wrote: post #3

I was honestly expecting much much more. Yahoo has talent, and YUI was the best library out there when it was new.

Can you be more specific about what is missing?

It's not about what is missing. It's about what is there. The monolithic web development 'MVC' platform thread is dead and gone. Mojito is a behind the curve also-ran, definitely not New Hotness.

Re: Yahoo’s Mojito is Now Open Source

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Post by stephen »

GWT has done the "run the same code on either client or server" for years now (2006) and, IMO, it's not a silver bullet.

Beyond trivial validations (not null, length check), most of interesting the business logic you run on the server assumes server resources. E.g. a chatty/optimized db connection, or a wire call to some backend service that the client can't make directly.

Maybe something magical about JavaScript/node.js will make "write once, run anymore" actually happen this time, but history isn't in its favor.

Don't get me wrong, it is nice, for some formatting, validation, etc. purposes. I just don't see server-side-only code going away anytime soon. (Which I'm sure is not what they're saying, I'm just musing here.)

Re: Yahoo’s Mojito is Now Open Source

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Post by oblique63 »

raphinou wrote: post #15

http://webtoolkit.eu is for me the future of web development: let the framework handle all the plumbing. Mojito claims to blur the client/server boundary. With Wt, you don't see it anymore. If you're a web developer, really worth a try!

Sounds similar to GWT: https://developers.google.com/web-toolkit/

aside from being in c++, any other differences or reasons why one might choose this over GWT?

Re: Yahoo’s Mojito is Now Open Source

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Post by mseebach »

stephen wrote: post #14

GWT has done the "run the same code on either client or server" for years now (2006) and, IMO, it's not a silver bullet. Beyond trivial validations (not null, length check), most of interesting the business logic you run on the server assumes server resources. E.g. a chatty/optimized db connection, or a wire call to some backend service that the client can't make directly. Maybe something magical about JavaScript/nod…

I think the domain of validations that are independent of server resources is larger that you express. There's the whole "consistency" check - if X is checked, Y and Z must be filled out etc. Also, check-digit checks on values such as ISINs[1] (real-life example).

1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Securities_Identi...

Re: Yahoo’s Mojito is Now Open Source

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Post by jzhou »

debacle wrote: post #13
dmethvin wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you be more specific about what is missing?

It's not about what is missing. It's about what is there. The monolithic web development 'MVC' platform thread is dead and gone. Mojito is a behind the curve also-ran, definitely not New Hotness.

yahoo isn't about the new hot thing, but about the fundamentals and setting a standard for what the web should be. They did it with YUI now with Mojito

Re: Yahoo’s Mojito is Now Open Source

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Post by truncate »

oblique63 wrote: post #16
raphinou wrote: post #15

http://webtoolkit.eu is for me the future of web development: let the framework handle all the plumbing. Mojito claims to blur the client/server boundary. With Wt, you don't see it anymore. If you're a web developer, really worth a try!

Sounds similar to GWT: https://developers.google.com/web-toolkit/ aside from being in c++, any other differences or reasons why one might choose this over GWT?

Maybe because GWT compiler is horribly slow.
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