Post-truth society is near
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Post-truth society is near
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Re: Post-truth society is near
#2Uh... Post-truth has been here awhile. They’ve had the capacity to fake/alter live events for decades now.
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#3Uh... Post-truth has been here awhile. They’ve had the capacity to fake/alter live events for decades now.
And the capability hasn't mattered for nearly as long. Large swaths of society have chosen to reject inconvenient truths and instead believe convenient lies. The battle's already lost. I'm not sure I can be convinced that we aren't 4th century Rome.
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#4Uh... Post-truth has been here awhile. They’ve had the capacity to fake/alter live events for decades now.
"Some will make the argument “But isn’t this simply the same problems we already deal with today?”. It is; however, the ability to produce fake content is getting exponentially cheaper while the ability to detect fake content is not improving. As long as fake content was somewhat expensive, difficult to produce, and contained detectable digital artifacts, it at least could be somewhat managed."
Yes, indeed. However, to the degree it is getting worse is substantial, rapid and significantly different than prior.
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#5Post truth society is already here. Disinformation has been on the rise the past couple of decades, and the results are clearly visible: conspiracy theories, election misinformation, and divisive politics where people's worldviews vary across their perception of reality.
Photoshopping and lying your way to a narrative is now the norm in the age of social media.
No doubt that AI will accelerate this, but to act like AI is the beginning is just evidence that you aren't paying attention.
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#6Uh... Post-truth has been here awhile. They’ve had the capacity to fake/alter live events for decades now.
"Some will make the argument “But isn’t this simply the same problems we already deal with today?”. It is; however, the ability to produce fake content is getting exponentially cheaper while the ability to detect fake content is not improving. As long as fake content was somewhat expensive, difficult to produce, and contained detectable digital artifacts, it at least could be somewhat managed." Yes, indeed. However,…
It sounds like you're making an argument about people's relationship to truth that pivots entirely around the unknowns presented by AI, and not around historical truths about how disinformation already works.
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#7There is so much baseless hysteria about this subject.
If society actually cared about this issue (spoiler, it doesn't), we already have all the required cryptographic tools (PKI, trusted timestamping, remote attestation) to create/record verifiably sourced content.
Nobody really cares though. But people sure do like to whine about it.
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#8There is absolutely no chance whatsoever that robots that are so real they are indistinguishable from people will come about in our lifetimes. The amount of breathless speculation since OpenAI released a kind-of-decent text completion program is so far beyond ridiculous at this point.
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#9> Cylons/Replicants are going to likely become real within our lifetime.
Great! So if me and some of my friends can afford to buy a few replicants together, we can agree offline on some gestures we will make using our replicants ahead of time and then we can witness important events with our replicants, and we will discretely gesture during the events. This will then allow us to determine if the feeds we are seeing from the eyes of our replicants are being fiddled with significantly.
Re: Post-truth society is near
#10There is so much baseless hysteria about this subject. If society actually cared about this issue (spoiler, it doesn't), we already have all the required cryptographic tools (PKI, trusted timestamping, remote attestation) to create/record verifiably sourced content. Nobody really cares though. But people sure do like to whine about it.
"Nobody cares" is the important part. The most recent X-Files reboot did an episode on this. The age of conspiracies is over; governments don't have to kill people to protect secrets because they can just dump them in public and nobody has any idea what to believe anymore.