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A 'Doxxing Truck' Displaying Students' Faces Comes to Harvard's Campus

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Re: A 'Doxxing Truck' Displaying Students' Faces Comes to Harvard's Campus

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Post by coolhand2120 »

testfoobar wrote: post #14
KittenInABox wrote: post #11

Are these people just largely early-20s to not-even-20 year olds? They say stupid, potentially heinous shit all the time. The correct punishment is usually just to call their legal guardians, professors, stuff like this to get them scolded and to issue public apologies as needed, and maybe they lose privileged positions like membership to social clubs or something like that. I don't know about the letter, was it advo…

A scolding is mild. Harvard has a history of rescinding admissions of students sharing inflammatory comments. What should be done here? https://www.insidehighered.com/admissions/article/2019/06/24...

Don’t hold your breath expecting rules to be applied equally.

Re: A 'Doxxing Truck' Displaying Students' Faces Comes to Harvard's Campus

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Post by nl »

tannedNerd wrote: post #48
nl wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't disagree with this strongly enough. The whole "well their side did something bad so that justifies this action in return" is exactly what caused this problem in the first place. To continue it only invites escalation.

This isn’t eye for an eye. It’s simply amplifying their own statements. If they don’t like the attention, don’t make such horrible statements that blame innocent victims for their own deaths. Plus many organizations have realized that this letter was not appropriate, I think that putting more pressure on people who think that this statement is fine is American. I would think we don’t support people who murder innocen…

See the counter argument there is that they weren't blaming innocents for their own deaths, they were saying the government of Israel is responsible for the situation.

And then it will turn into "oh but Israeli actions are/are not justified military action" etc etc.

And then it will turn out that many of the people doxxed didn't actually sign the letter and do not agree with it and merely signed up to a mailinglist/membership/something.

And then someone will physically attack someone who was doxxed.

etc

This cycle doesn't get stopped by amplifying bad actions.

Re: A 'Doxxing Truck' Displaying Students' Faces Comes to Harvard's Campus

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Post by NicoJuicy »

nl wrote: post #17
tannedNerd wrote: post #2

As much as I hate doxxing anonymous accounts, I’m kinda ok with this. You want to release heinous statements without a retraction you deserve real world consequences. The student groups that issued retractions should be spared but anyone who supports barbarism should be shunned and punished. Also don’t give me the bs that they posted they hate all civilian lives lost, they only posted that after the NYU student lost…

I can't disagree with this strongly enough. The whole "well their side did something bad so that justifies this action in return" is exactly what caused this problem in the first place. To continue it only invites escalation.

Not giving a strong response ( 2014) invites more escalation by the agressor ( 2022 - Russia ).

Israel is almost surrounded by extremist Muslims/ Arabs, which hasn't changed much in those decades.

1948 - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab%E2%80%93Israeli_Wa...

Tbh. I don't think Israel has much of a choice to be safe for another couple of decades.

Re: A 'Doxxing Truck' Displaying Students' Faces Comes to Harvard's Campus

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Post by nl »

NicoJuicy wrote: post #83
nl wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't disagree with this strongly enough. The whole "well their side did something bad so that justifies this action in return" is exactly what caused this problem in the first place. To continue it only invites escalation.

Not giving a strong response ( 2014) invites more escalation by the agressor ( 2022 - Russia ). Israel is almost surrounded by extremist Muslims/ Arabs, which hasn't changed much in those decades. 1948 - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab%E2%80%93Israeli_Wa... Tbh. I don't think Israel has much of a choice to be safe for another couple of decades.

Are you comparing writing a letter to invading Ukraine and saying both require similar deterrence? That seems a fairly extreme position to take?
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