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Google has sent internet into 'spiral of decline', claims DeepMind co-founder

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Post by CM30 »

dalbasal wrote: post #121

"Search results plagued with ‘clickbait’ would have been an understatement 20 years ago. The parts of the open web you access from Google/search (most of it) is almost entirely made-for-google' ranking algorithims. The situation is worse than it is on closed social media, including Google's YouTube. Professional YouTubers are also making content for rankings above all, but the fact that it's their own face/voice keep…

> Professional YouTubers are also making content for rankings above all, but the fact that it's their own face/voice keeps some of the rot at bay.

YouTube's stuck in its own algorithm hellhole. Mostly due to their insistence that creators have to post on a regular basis, creative block or lack of things to cover be damned. So if your niche has nothing to talk about right now, well you'll need to find something, anything to cover to stay relevant. And if your fans/viewers want something that you don't care about anymore, well that sucks even more. Changing to a topic you do care about will probably tank everything for weeks, potentially longer.

It's like a video creating version of a factory production line for those trying to become popular/famous there.

Re: Google has sent internet into 'spiral of decline', claims DeepMind co-founder

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Post by EForEndeavour »

Am4TIfIsER0ppos wrote: post #192
moritzwarhier wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So I understood you want to reverse a pushed commit on both your local repository and the remote. You can reverse that commit using just the following commands: git reset --hard HEAD~2 git reflog expire --expire-unreachable=now git push -f This reverses the most recent commit. The -f is needed to reverse the commit on your git server. ... I apologize if my previous response wasn't helpful. I see that you meant "rever…

> git reset --hard HEAD~2 Stupid computer. That does 2 commits. > git reflog expire --expire-unreachable=now For the love of god why? The reflog is there to save your bacon. I guess because they are still reachable from the remote's reference so they won't completely vanish just yet. > git push -f Now they're gone unless you can find the hashes somewhere else. The objects might still be present. > I apologize that tw…

Nah, they likely didn't bother trying to ask GPT-4 and imagined hypothetical answers which could lead beginners to shoot themselves in the foot.

ChatGPT Plus with a short custom instruction to answer in steps, respond tersely, ask clarifying questions where needed, and make recommendations wherever possible replied to "how to reverse a pushed commit in git" with:

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To reverse a pushed commit in Git, you can either use git revert or git reset. Each approach has pros and cons.

# Option 1: git revert

Pros: Safe for shared branches, creates a new commit to undo changes.

Cons: Adds noise to history.

Commands:

    git revert [COMMIT_HASH]

    git push origin [BRANCH_NAME]
# Option 2: git reset

## Soft Reset

Pros: Keeps changes in your working directory.

Cons: Rewrites history; risky for shared branches.

Commands:

    git reset --soft [COMMIT_HASH]^

    git commit -m "Reverting previous commit"

    git push origin [BRANCH_NAME] --force-with-lease
## Hard Reset

Pros: Completely removes commit.

Cons: Rewrites history; risky for shared branches; discards changes.

Commands:

    git reset --hard [COMMIT_HASH]^

    git push origin [BRANCH_NAME] --force-with-lease
Recommendation:

Use git revert for shared branches to avoid conflicts. Use git reset for local or feature branches where you control all changes. Clarify your specific scenario for a tailored recommendation.

Re: Google has sent internet into 'spiral of decline', claims DeepMind co-founder

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Post by danaris »

amiga386 wrote: post #195
speleding wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree, but it's mostly in the poor implementation where that law fails, the idea behind it wasn't bad. I think it can still be fixed by stipulating: if the browser sends you an X-Privacy header with some well defined content then you are not allowed to show a popup and you should use the content of that header instead. The exact content of that header needs to be fleshed out but should offer a lot of customisation…

This was https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_Not_Track and it did not work. Surveillance capitalism is just worth too much to websites to even pay lip service to user privacy. The only thing that works is having your user-agent mercilessly chop the survelliance shit out of web pages. Don't evaluate it, don't render it. Because thw websites will forever be hostile to your interests while they can enrich themselves by dat…

It didn't work because there was no law backing it. It's purely a "voluntary self-regulation mechanism".

Voluntary self-regulation doesn't work on greedy assholes who don't care how much of the web they make unusable as long as they get an extra 0.0003¢ per page view.

Re: Google has sent internet into 'spiral of decline', claims DeepMind co-founder

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Post by sacrosancty »

Am4TIfIsER0ppos wrote: post #192
moritzwarhier wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So I understood you want to reverse a pushed commit on both your local repository and the remote. You can reverse that commit using just the following commands: git reset --hard HEAD~2 git reflog expire --expire-unreachable=now git push -f This reverses the most recent commit. The -f is needed to reverse the commit on your git server. ... I apologize if my previous response wasn't helpful. I see that you meant "rever…

> git reset --hard HEAD~2 Stupid computer. That does 2 commits. > git reflog expire --expire-unreachable=now For the love of god why? The reflog is there to save your bacon. I guess because they are still reachable from the remote's reference so they won't completely vanish just yet. > git push -f Now they're gone unless you can find the hashes somewhere else. The objects might still be present. > I apologize that tw…

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Post by brucethemoose2 »

firtoz wrote: post #166
matheusmoreira wrote: post #157

I agree but the root cause isn't Google, it's advertising in all its forms, Google's ads just happen to be the most profitable ones. Kill advertising and the web will be fixed automatically and permanently. Using uBlock Origin is everyone's duty towards a better web. It should come pre-installed in Firefox.

You may be interested in trying Brave. Though that's using chromium and therefore connected to Google, kind of? Would be curious to hear the community's thoughts on this tbh.

Cromite is the bee's knees on Android and Windows.

I don't like/trust Brave for a number of reasons, and not just the crypto thing. Hijacking innocuous ads is another big one.

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Post by Too »

Roark66 wrote: post #107
Fricken wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Going back to the 1950s, there were futuristic concepts renderings of "the kitchen of the future" in which wifey could use her computer terminal to easily call up recipes. My trigger point arrived about 3 years ago when I couldn't find a basic brownie recipe using Google. Just page after page of SEO shit. Google failed at the future. Although, to be fair, I'm so accustomed to being able to effortlessly access some ki…

I use chatgpt for such things(and I'm working hard on getting an equivalent service quality from my local models as I hate the not-at-all-OpenAI, but they have the best model now). Then again I never know if the thing it says are true recipes or hallucinations. If you think about it, it's exactly like on the general Internet.

How well does that work? I would imagine recipes iate really hard to entrust to chatgpt. At least for baking, where ratios and timing is crucial. LLMs have very bad sense of numbers generally. How would you verify it’s not all bogus hallucinations? At best it’s a source of inspiration, for ingredients you can freestyle from yourself.

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Post by aktenlage »

firtoz wrote: post #166
matheusmoreira wrote: post #157

I agree but the root cause isn't Google, it's advertising in all its forms, Google's ads just happen to be the most profitable ones. Kill advertising and the web will be fixed automatically and permanently. Using uBlock Origin is everyone's duty towards a better web. It should come pre-installed in Firefox.

You may be interested in trying Brave. Though that's using chromium and therefore connected to Google, kind of? Would be curious to hear the community's thoughts on this tbh.

Because chrome-based Browsers are used by the large majority of web users, Google can (and does) easily change the web experience for its own profit, by adding, removing, or changing the functionality in chrome.

Having the majority of users gives Google this power. As long as you use a chrome based browser, you are still part of that.

Re: Google has sent internet into 'spiral of decline', claims DeepMind co-founder

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Post by likeabbas »

CM30 wrote: post #221
dalbasal wrote: post #121

"Search results plagued with ‘clickbait’ would have been an understatement 20 years ago. The parts of the open web you access from Google/search (most of it) is almost entirely made-for-google' ranking algorithims. The situation is worse than it is on closed social media, including Google's YouTube. Professional YouTubers are also making content for rankings above all, but the fact that it's their own face/voice keep…

> Professional YouTubers are also making content for rankings above all, but the fact that it's their own face/voice keeps some of the rot at bay. YouTube's stuck in its own algorithm hellhole. Mostly due to their insistence that creators have to post on a regular basis, creative block or lack of things to cover be damned. So if your niche has nothing to talk about right now, well you'll need to find something, anyth…

Hmm, Jesse Michels posts videos so infrequently (he just did the first one in a year) and he still got 2 million views instantly..

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Post by mycologos »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #157

I agree but the root cause isn't Google, it's advertising in all its forms, Google's ads just happen to be the most profitable ones. Kill advertising and the web will be fixed automatically and permanently. Using uBlock Origin is everyone's duty towards a better web. It should come pre-installed in Firefox.

> Kill advertising and the web will be fixed automatically and permanently

Is the implicit logic here "kill advertising and the web will be like what it was before widespread advertising: mostly for and by nerds"?

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Post by MereInterest »

bflesch wrote: post #134
majewsky wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I think the only place advertising should be allowed is in a marketplace setting That's the horrifying beauty of it. Everything has been turned into a marketplace.

Everything is a marketplace. In all situations, the human being follows incentices.

Following incentives is not the same as a marketplace. Marketplaces have a number of additional assumptions.

* Items are capable of being traded.

* The items being traded are unchanged by the process of assigning a numeric value.

* Abstract concepts such as “risk” and “investment” are best measured in the same numeric values as are used for concrete items.

Adding to that, even if I were to accept the reasoning that following incentives is equivalent to being in a marketplace, your statement that “In all situations, the human being follows incentives .” is simply untrue. It ignores the existence of self-sacrifice (e.g. a soldier sacrificing themself to save comrades), the existence of self-harm (e.g. Jonestown), and the distinction between incentives and perceived incentives (e.g. also Jonestown).

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