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The whole of the Whole Earth Catalog is now online

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Re: The whole of the Whole Earth Catalog is now online

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A paywall on an article about something being available for free. How cute, heh. The current state of online publishing paints a grim picture for the future of the internet :o(

Especially considering that most of HN is probably just excited about using this information to train AI as look at it themselves.

I mean, if we’re gonna train AIs, I’ll take the ones trained on the WEC & family over most sources.

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Especially considering that most of HN is probably just excited about using this information to train AI as look at it themselves.

I mean, if we’re gonna train AIs, I’ll take the ones trained on the WEC & family over most sources.

Well, except for all the nonsense about ESP and the like. Stewart Brand and friends were ahead of the world in a lot of ways, such as realizing the need to reduce our ecological footprint and so on, but they were also unfortunately suckers for "paranormal" con-artists and other "New Age" nonsense that the 60s counterculture also was intrigued by.

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During 1968 through 1972 I lived a block and a half from Stewart Brand's Whole Earth Truck store, across the street from Kepler's Bookstore, and around the corner from the Mid Peninsula Free University. There hasn't been a time like that since, and I didn't know what I had until it was gone.

They paved paradise and put in a parking lot.

WEC: Eye-opener. Lot of fun to order exotic stuff (tools, foods, materials, clothing) from. A few for-examples: it got me to cane a seat on a (once-expensive) thrift-shop store ... and try some east-coast kinnikinic ... order tea from Canada (Merchies, still there) ... and a lot of previously unseen books (including Lloyd Kahn's). The cool comments (and stories) around the page-edges were a plus too.

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Whole Earth Catalog and Fox Fire books were like maker bibles for me when I was a kid. Nothing quite compares to them now days. Fox Fire books in particular were non-commercial (from my memory) and full of really interesting skills and information. They were the maker movement before it was a (tech/online) thing.

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Whole Earth Catalog and Fox Fire books were like maker bibles for me when I was a kid. Nothing quite compares to them now days. Fox Fire books in particular were non-commercial (from my memory) and full of really interesting skills and information. They were the maker movement before it was a (tech/online) thing.

What a wonderful memory. I still have all my Foxfire volumes. When a certain web browser came out I thought "They got the name backwards."

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post #16

During 1968 through 1972 I lived a block and a half from Stewart Brand's Whole Earth Truck store, across the street from Kepler's Bookstore, and around the corner from the Mid Peninsula Free University. There hasn't been a time like that since, and I didn't know what I had until it was gone.

Why didn't you know? Too young?

I thought it was normal.

Re: The whole of the Whole Earth Catalog is now online

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post #16

During 1968 through 1972 I lived a block and a half from Stewart Brand's Whole Earth Truck store, across the street from Kepler's Bookstore, and around the corner from the Mid Peninsula Free University. There hasn't been a time like that since, and I didn't know what I had until it was gone.

They paved paradise and put in a parking lot. WEC: Eye-opener. Lot of fun to order exotic stuff (tools, foods, materials, clothing) from. A few for-examples: it got me to cane a seat on a (once-expensive) thrift-shop store ... and try some east-coast kinnikinic ... order tea from Canada (Merchies, still there) ... and a lot of previously unseen books (including Lloyd Kahn's). The cool comments (and stories) around th…

Talking about paving paradise, Kepler's is now a huge multi-story store. Several decades ago I looked in vain for even a little table or shelf with leading-edge counter-culture literature. Couldn't find anything resembling that.

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post #16

During 1968 through 1972 I lived a block and a half from Stewart Brand's Whole Earth Truck store, across the street from Kepler's Bookstore, and around the corner from the Mid Peninsula Free University. There hasn't been a time like that since, and I didn't know what I had until it was gone.

Why didn't you know? Too young?

"didn't know what I had till it was gone" is a standard phrase meaning "I didn't realize how much I appreciated it till I didn't have it any more"

"They took all the trees, put 'em in a tree museum / And they charged the people a dollar and a half just to see 'em / Don't it always seem to go / You don't know what you've got till it's gone / They paved paradise, put up a parking lot" -- Joni Mitchell, Big Yellow Taxi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWwUJH70ubM

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