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Re: The NYC's MTA 20 year needs assessment reminds us they can't build

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Post by kouru225 » Wed, Oct 11, 2023, 7:45 PM UTC

decafninja wrote: post #109

kouru225 wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think the 1% that pay their share are very relevant. The only example I know of a suburb that pays its fair share is the beach front suburb near Charleston, SC and that's very wealthy area that we couldn't expect to replicate on a widescale.

I think the relationship is more complicated. Otherwise, why are city mayors desperately opposing WFH, with the goal of putting suburban commuters back into their hellish commutes into the city to patronize urban businesses? You could argue the suburbanites need their urban jobs - but WFH has proven at least many of these jobs do not necessarily require workers to have their butts planted in urban offices to be produ…

Because people like the propaganda of the suburbs more than they like looking at hard numbers. The entire American dream is based on the notion of suburban car-centric infrastructure: each family a single unit home with a lawn and a car. We've been peddled this lie for 70 years now. It's hard to break free from something like that, especially when the consequences of suburban maintenance are so delayed. This lie has socioeconomic value because it maintains the narrative that rich people contribute the most to the economy and they're carrying the weight of the "inner-city" poor

City mayors still think that the suburbs are profitable because they're just as vulnerable to this propaganda as you and I are. The Feds help maintain this lie too.

Re: The NYC's MTA 20 year needs assessment reminds us they can't build

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Post by selimthegrim » Wed, Oct 11, 2023, 10:26 PM UTC

rayiner wrote: post #110

selimthegrim wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My family is Ahmedi, (not a community historically disposed to the moral superiority of Europeans or Christians and not an upper class family either) so secularism was and is a way of making sure the masses don’t turn us into mincemeat (in Bangladesh too) What I’m trying to drive at is that this ignores indigenous leftist as well as minority (historically Ahmedis were never leftist with exception of 1970) movements.

It does, insofar as religious minorities have very little influence on Bangladeshi political dynamics. The overriding force for secularism in the country is the notion that Islam is for poor and backward people. Similarly in the US, religion is what actually poorer racial minorities have in common with the dominant group. Secularism actually arose in the US in response to poor Catholic immigrants.

How can this be true with Washington’s letter to the Jews, Jefferson’s Bible and letter to the Danbury Baptists, the Ohio constitution, etc

https://fedsoc.org/federalist-society-review-new/the-ohio-co...

Re: The NYC's MTA 20 year needs assessment reminds us they can't build

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Post by FlatGov » Sat, Oct 14, 2023, 12:04 AM UTC

I'm amazed how everyone (present company excepted) is OK with one woman, Hochul, deciding to build the IBX and one man, Adams, deciding not to build QueensLink. Where's the outrage when important studies like the 20-Year Needs Assessments are manipulated to support pet projects that may bear little resemblance to the most deserving ones?