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Microsoft completes $69B deal to buy Activision Blizzard

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Re: Microsoft completes $69B deal to buy Activision Blizzard

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post #128

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Uh no. Buying out previously cross platform studios and then converting their titles to Microsoft only is absolutely not “strengthening competition”. If Microsoft want to strengthen competition, they would stop burning their first party studios to the ground.

Of course it is strengthening competition. Playstation has tons of exclusive titles. By one estimate, 4x as many as Xbox [1]. How is that a fair playing field? I'm personally totally in favor of ending exclusivity entirely for all consoles. (What gamer wouldn't be?) But as long as Sony is playing that game, Microsoft is simply trying to level the playing field here, to make Xbox more competitive against PS . That's w…

It’s not Sonys fault that Microsoft destroyed their first party dominance while Sony was curating their exclusive titles.

Microsoft endorsed enshittification and got complacent. Sony didn’t.

Microsoft lost their previously winning position through incompetence in a single console generation, and that doesn’t all of a sudden make buying up and making several studios exclusive “fair competition”.

“Fair competition” is not using your other business lines to subsidize harming consumers because you made several years of terrible decisions.

What’s more, Microsoft’s throwing money around to just buy a position in the gaming market is showing through clear review manipulation (Starfalls wall of 10s for what’s clearly a 5-6/10).

For any other company this purchase is viewed as anti-competitive. Microsoft’s arguments were fucking toddler level. How consumer protections managed to bungle this so badly to prevent the sale is likely to go down in law education for “what not to do”. All the lawyers involved in the consumer protection side should be disbarred on the basis of complete incompetence.

Re: Microsoft completes $69B deal to buy Activision Blizzard

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And what is Microsoft going to do with this purchase? Seriously, Microsoft is buy all these game studios and fail to utilize them probably. They own all the IP required to do a followup to Fallout New Vegas and NOTHING.

They haven’t owned Bethesda for very long so I think it’s fair that they haven’t released a F:NV successor yet. I do suspect that Microsoft may have been behind Starfield releasing in its half-baked, dumbed down state though a la “We need it on game pass by X, make it happen!” Regarding at least the Blizzard side of the acquisition, I feel like Microsoft ownership may end up being a good thing for their underused IP.…

> I do suspect that Microsoft may have been behind Starfield releasing in its half-baked, dumbed down state though a la “We need it on game pass by X, make it happen!”

In fairness to Microsoft, "half-baked" would be how I describe all of Bethesda's previous releases as well. I don't think Starfield is that far off how Skyrim or Fallout 4 was on release. Starfield's a long shot from where Skyrim and Fallout are now after years of patches and DLC, but I think not far from where they started.

> Regarding at least the Blizzard side of the acquisition, I feel like Microsoft ownership may end up being a good thing for their underused IP. Microsoft has strong incentives to release RTS (StarCraft, Warcraft) games to bolster PC usage for gaming and maybe bring more attention to the Windows Store (IMO forcing minecraft onto the Store was a blunder as the upgrade experience was fucking terrible) if they choose to use it.

Blizzard needs focus, though time will tell if Microsoft can help with that.

Overwatch is a mess right now. The release of Overwatch 2 has gone poorly. The balance is poor. They only do patches like twice a quarter, so it feels like they always have to make very conservative changes because who knows how this change interacts with the 30 other ones in the patch notes. It means heroes that are broken or unplayable tend to stay so for months on end. The pro league is in shambles in the best case, and dead in the worst and most likely. They've been losing players. PvE never really launched, and now they're charging extra for the shitty scraps that came out of it.

Diablo 4 is basically dead. 5 million players on launch, 300k last month. They're down to ~5% of the players they started with a year after launch. The core gameplay was not fun, and I can't believe no one noticed it forever ago.

WoW is WoW, but it's stale. The most exciting thing they've done in ages was re-releasing old versions of the game. They're basically just waiting to get upended by something actually innovative.

At this point, I love Blizzard's characters and worlds, but I think their games are D tier. They have the half-finished feel of a Bethesda game, but they don't have any of the fun. They don't resemble the same Blizzard that originally released SC2 and WoW.

Re: Microsoft completes $69B deal to buy Activision Blizzard

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post #114

MS has been making some really mediocre games in the past 5 years. What have they made that was good or won awards/Acclaim? I think they buy studios and the execs then put their finger prints all over it and f up the games. Just look at Starfield, hyped af but mid af

Age of Empires 4 is the best yet, so is flight simulator.

I was absolutely bored by age 4. I really like age 2hd however.

where is hellbender. hover 95. ski free?

Re: Microsoft completes $69B deal to buy Activision Blizzard

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post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The bad practice is placing bad behaviours on the contract fine print like not allowing for feature parity after the exclusivity deal runs out, or suffering the risk of a lawsuit. Are you suggesting that e.g. Square-Enix executives didn't know what they were signing? They signed away exclusives in exchange for money . How is that worse than acquiring big studios with large IP portfolios and lock them to your own pl…

It is a nice business you have here, it would be a shame if something happened to it...

You make it sound like the poor gaming studios didn't read the contract documents and got trapped in a draconian nightmare.

That's a naive take if I have ever seen one.

Re: Microsoft completes $69B deal to buy Activision Blizzard

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post #114

MS has been making some really mediocre games in the past 5 years. What have they made that was good or won awards/Acclaim? I think they buy studios and the execs then put their finger prints all over it and f up the games. Just look at Starfield, hyped af but mid af

I really don't get the complaints about Starfield being mid. What did people expect? Skyrim, Fallout 3/4, Starfield are all basically the same things with visual retouches along the way. This is not a slam in the slightest mind you: I'm currently in the midst of my fourth playthrough of Fallout 4. I'm looking forward to picking up Starfield in a year or so once the modders have made it more awesome and Bethesda's fix…

It's not, though. I don't think Starfield is bad -- it's well-produced and rich with many widely beloved game elements from earlier Bethesda project -- but it focused on the ElderScrolls/Fallout bits that I didn't care so much about and pushed aside the parts that absorbed me into those games.

Specifically, the other franchises let you literally just wander around through a hand-crafted world stumbling into who knows what. There are very few games that can deliver that because the hand-crafted thing is sooo labor intensive and expensive.

But Starfield failed to deliver on that. There are countless quests and destinations and rich dialog trees, but if I just push forward on my control stick, I will immediately leave "hand-crafted" behind in favor of "procedurally generated" and then I will hit a wall in at most 30-40 minutes. That's so tremendously different than what I was able to do in the other games that I just didn't have a reason to play anymore.

Bethesda wasn't obliged to deliver on the bits I personally loved about the other games, but I (and some others) were legitimately bummed when they didn't.

Re: Microsoft completes $69B deal to buy Activision Blizzard

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And what is Microsoft going to do with this purchase? Seriously, Microsoft is buy all these game studios and fail to utilize them probably. They own all the IP required to do a followup to Fallout New Vegas and NOTHING.

They haven’t owned Bethesda for very long so I think it’s fair that they haven’t released a F:NV successor yet. I do suspect that Microsoft may have been behind Starfield releasing in its half-baked, dumbed down state though a la “We need it on game pass by X, make it happen!” Regarding at least the Blizzard side of the acquisition, I feel like Microsoft ownership may end up being a good thing for their underused IP.…

Forget Starfield, anyone remember the disastrous Redfall release earlier this year?

Re: Microsoft completes $69B deal to buy Activision Blizzard

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Series S console came out at $299. GamePass is $10.99/mo. If that's not lowering prices, then I don't know what is.

We're talking about game prices, which are indeed industry set (worked in the industry). The Xbox Series S has cheaper hardware, that's why it's cheaper. You might as well say video games are getting less expensive because the 3DS isn't $500. While GamePass is great value, it's just temporary to keep everybody on Microsoft store. You can't mod games, you can't open your game files even, and your progress in live serv…

> We're talking about game prices

No we're not, we're talking about the total cost of console gaming, because that's what actually matters when you're discussing the effect on consumers.

> It's hard not to acknowledge the fact that Microsoft is getting perfectly positioned to clamp everyone down into their ecosystem harder than ever

No, it's hard to imagine where you're getting that from at all, if you're talking about their gaming arm. Microsoft isn't positioned to clamp down on anything in gaming. They're simply trying to compete against their more successful competitor Sony.

> I don't think the attitude of "let's let them get as big as possible and hope they don't abuse that power" is healthy.

I don't think the attitude of "let Sony's gaming business be as big as it already is, but don't allow Microsoft's gaming business to try to expand to match Sony's" is healthy. That's literally anti-competitive.

Re: Microsoft completes $69B deal to buy Activision Blizzard

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As a side note, this means that Microsoft now owns the copyrights to all of Infocom's interactive fiction: Zork, Enchanter, Deadline, HHGttG, etc.

Quake, Wolfenstein, elite force*

*may have paramount cbs locking that up but Raven comes back to the family with id now

Re: Microsoft completes $69B deal to buy Activision Blizzard

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UK regulators were objecting the deal because they were concerned that the takeover would reduce competition in cloud gaming.

Microsoft gave game streaming rights to Ubisoft, which made the Activision deal possible: https://techcrunch.com/2023/10/13/why-microsoft-had-to-relin...

"For Ubisoft, this deal means it has full and exclusive cloud-streaming rights to all current commercially available Activision games, as well as those released in the next 15 years." !!!

Ubisoft is the real winner here.

Re: Microsoft completes $69B deal to buy Activision Blizzard

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post #162

So Basically only EA and Ubisoft remains as big publisher.

EA has been screwing up imo one of their biggest ups - command and conquer since they purchased it. Thankfully they've let fans run the show for the most part. I did enjoy cnc3 however 4 is a mistake and their subsequent attempts to do generals 2 have been flops
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