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Framework 13 AMD 7040 Series: A Developer's First Impressions

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Re: Framework 13 AMD 7040 Series: A Developer's First Impressions

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Post by augustl »

Capricorn2481 wrote: post #155
augustl wrote: post #99

After switching from an 11th gen Intel Dell XPS, to a M1 Macbook, I resist returning to PC laptops (even though I prefer Windows) until someone confirms that newer Ryzen and Intel chips are comparable in terms of "perceived performance" to Apple silicon. The whole laptop simply becomes syrupy on battery. Even if I go high performance mode in Windows settings, the whole device is just so laggy compared to a Macbook. A…

Ditto. Would love a windows laptop this good but nothing I've had has ever come close. It's always low battery or high heat or bulky.

I hope we get bootcamp on Apple silicon, so we can see if it's the hardware or the OS that's causing most of the trouble :D

Re: Framework 13 AMD 7040 Series: A Developer's First Impressions

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Post by nrp »

guerby wrote: post #94
nrp wrote: post #39

I'm happy to help answer questions folks have on the product. We (without intending to) ended up being among the first to ship a Ryzen 7040 U-series laptop, which means Linux support is early and depends on having the right kernel version. As others have noted in the comments, we were in a similar place when we were one of the earlier ones on both 12th Gen Intel Core and 13th Gen Intel Core, and both matured rapidly.…

I noticed at the Kernel Recipes conference in Paris that Greg KH has a frame.work laptop and when I asked him he was very happy about it. Do you ship early models to linux kernel developpers and may be distribution developpers?

We’ve shipped a handful of pre-release units to folks at Canonical, Red Hat, and Manjaro for QA/compatibility testing. We have seen a much larger number of people involved in kernel or distro development pick up released systems on their own.

Re: Framework 13 AMD 7040 Series: A Developer's First Impressions

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Post by nrp »

bootloop wrote: post #134
nrp wrote: post #39

I'm happy to help answer questions folks have on the product. We (without intending to) ended up being among the first to ship a Ryzen 7040 U-series laptop, which means Linux support is early and depends on having the right kernel version. As others have noted in the comments, we were in a similar place when we were one of the earlier ones on both 12th Gen Intel Core and 13th Gen Intel Core, and both matured rapidly.…

How was the experience from not being acknowledge by AMD, because you were not big enough, to going to be the first once shipping their new flagship laptop CPU after all their other customers moved their timeline out? I imagine their willingness to support you did increase in the last few months? Eagerly awaiting my batch to ship. Very happy that I see a great team being in charge of this product. Also thanks for bei…

AMD is a smaller company than you might expect, which drives them to need to focus. Once they got internal alignment to work with us though, they were all in from the start of kicking off the program.

Re: Framework 13 AMD 7040 Series: A Developer's First Impressions

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Post by Nereuxofficial »

Honestly the biggest issue with Linux desktop right now is that Xorg is still more compatible and widely used. I tried Wayland on multiple machines and always had trouble when using it on my Laptop with no way to switch between integrated and dedicated Graphics cards(on X i always used optimus-manager which works fine 99% of the time).

I can't wait to finally switch to Wayland when those issues are fixed.

Re: Framework 13 AMD 7040 Series: A Developer's First Impressions

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Post by gigatexal »

zackify wrote: post #156
gigatexal wrote: post #88

I couldn’t finish the blog post. It came off as too much of a rant and a bit whiney. Linux != macOS or Windows. Gestures, and all this fancy stuff about fingerprint readers etc do not apply. I guess I’m lucky my thinkpad’s fingerprint reader works. Anyway I’m looking forward to evaluating this laptop vs a similar AMD thinkpad as I’m in the market. I run i3 and will move to sway when I fully transition things to Wayla…

Sorry about the modal.. I think I turned that off. Still getting used to substack

My take was needlessly hard sorry about that. I wish you and your blog all the success. But thank you for not making it modal.

Re: Framework 13 AMD 7040 Series: A Developer's First Impressions

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Post by crossroadsguy »

nrp wrote: post #39

I'm happy to help answer questions folks have on the product. We (without intending to) ended up being among the first to ship a Ryzen 7040 U-series laptop, which means Linux support is early and depends on having the right kernel version. As others have noted in the comments, we were in a similar place when we were one of the earlier ones on both 12th Gen Intel Core and 13th Gen Intel Core, and both matured rapidly.…

Reluctantly bought a MacBook Air few days back, literally trying to somehow use my too old last MacBook Air while I waited/hope for something like a Framework laptop. But then I eventually realised that being in a third world country means the enthusiast initiatives would never reach you in time and when they do they’d probably be obsolete, out of practical use and irrelevant for various reasons. Maybe that’s one of the reasons for not focusing on such markets.

Re: Framework 13 AMD 7040 Series: A Developer's First Impressions

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Post by circuit10 »

cesarb wrote: post #164
jjice wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hmm I wonder if that could just be a simple keyboard replacement given the modularity of the Frameworks.

I recall reading somewhere that there's a height issue (a keyboard with a trackpoint would need more height than what's available). (I'm not a trackpoint user, but I like the extra set of three standalone mouse buttons which usually come with a trackpoint; the middle mouse button is particularly useful, since it's not usually available on a trackpad.)

You can usually do a three finger tap for middle mouse which isn’t as convenient but it works

Re: Framework 13 AMD 7040 Series: A Developer's First Impressions

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Post by maztaim »

Fractional scaling works fine for me on Fedora 39. I've had some similar issues as others with amd stability, specifically with fwupd services, glitchy video playback, lots of amdgpu errors in the logs, etc...

You can dim the fingerprint reader from the BIOS settings to what I consider acceptable levels, though I hate that blue is the LED color of choice for so many things. I buy stickers to dim them in the office and bedroom.

I didn't have problems with the foam that the author did. I did have some initial boot issues where nothing happened for a few attempts. They quickly went away for whatever reason on their own.

I can't speak to battery life, my use-case keeps the laptop on power most of the time, so I set the charge percentage to 60% in the BIOS per it's recommendation to save long-term battery health.

It's too early to feel like it's a 100% solid, but it's good enough for me to use as the daily driver. I knew what I was getting into when I ordered it. I know it'll get much better within a short time. No intentions of looking back for me. I am very happy with my purchase.

Re: Framework 13 AMD 7040 Series: A Developer's First Impressions

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Post by verall »

nrp wrote: post #39

I'm happy to help answer questions folks have on the product. We (without intending to) ended up being among the first to ship a Ryzen 7040 U-series laptop, which means Linux support is early and depends on having the right kernel version. As others have noted in the comments, we were in a similar place when we were one of the earlier ones on both 12th Gen Intel Core and 13th Gen Intel Core, and both matured rapidly.…

My FW 12th gen still shuts down during sleep, same issue as tons and tons of other people here: https://community.frame.work/t/laptop-shuts-down-during-slee...

It seems like I got the least supported mainboard, which kind of sucks. If I knew this one was unsupported I would have just bought the 11th gen.

I love the HW design and modularity and there are FW problems with like every laptop ever but it doesn't change how much this problem sucks.

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