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Scrollbars are becoming a problem

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Re: Scrollbars are becoming a problem

#502
Side tangent but here goes.

> Naturally the script has to override flatpak separately because heaven forbid my flatpak applications look the way I themed my system.

Triggered.

There's a bug currently where you have to set QT_AUTO_SCREEN_SCALE_FACTOR on QT apps for Hidpi. Trying to get it set on flatpak apps though is an absolute nightmare, so all my flatpak apps are really small on my screen.

Re: Scrollbars are becoming a problem

#503

I have come to a funny realisation recently. It's not my eyesight which is becoming worse, it's the UIs which are becoming worse. The tiny scrollbars with laughable contrast are in no way accessible to anyone. I've recently switched to using KDE with the Oxygen theme and it's a joy to use without any eye strain. These scrollbars are absolutely pathetic, with no room for customisation. (good luck theming a locked-down…

If we are talking UI we need to talk about Apple. The first thin I do on MacOS is turn on the scroll bars. Yes, MacOS Has them set as "Only Show When Scrolling" by default, which is probably the most ridiculous setting.

Not getting it. I mean, if Mac OS lets you configure scroll bars (and I haven't noticed a problem with the defaults so far either) that's much much more than can be said about gnome isn't it? Where gnome theming has gone from black magic in v3 to ... anathema in v4.

Re: Scrollbars are becoming a problem

#505

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Screens can get brighter now, but if your screen is too bright, that's entirely on you. Adjusting the brightness is trivial and you can even do it without using the buttons on the display (DDC/CI).

On the contrary, some new monitors are so bright even on their lowest setting that you have to find alternative solutions.

I have a (marginally) HDR monitor, and I run Windows 10's HDR mode. Immediately it was noticeably blander than non-HDR, but I've quite grown to like it. I find it very pleasant to use for long stretches for work and such.

When I play games I get the vivid colors and contrast so all good.

Re: Scrollbars are becoming a problem

#506
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I find it ironic that in order for your comment to be accessible the reader must lookup “a11y” to find that it means “accessibility”.

First time hearing the term a11y for me too. I hope to never come across it again.

A problem with the shortening is that, depending on the font, it looks like a four-letter word: a homonym with two meanings.

Re: Scrollbars are becoming a problem

#507

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> There's no benefit gained, whatsoever, from moving content to the title bar The one benefit I can see is to gain some extra vertical space on the skinny 16:9 screens, especially now that the task bar in windows 11 got thicker and can no longer be moved to a side. They, of course, still haven't gotten around to fixing the auto-hide behavior, so that's still not an option. The rare times I have to use windows, I use…

You can't actually use reason to understand modern UX/UI designers choices. I've just got Windows 11 at work. They've increased the blank space between all the items in the file exporer quite significantly. They clearly don't care about vertical space because I know have to scroll first in places I could click first before.

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Re: Scrollbars are becoming a problem

#508
This article made me realize I can never even see the scroll position in Safari, especially on a dark page like that one. And I've gotten used to never seeing it. I don't even look anymore.

Safari's scrollbar on that page is white on white. ???

Re: Scrollbars are becoming a problem

#509

This article made me realize I can never even see the scroll position in Safari, especially on a dark page like that one. And I've gotten used to never seeing it. I don't even look anymore. Safari's scrollbar on that page is white on white. ???

I filed a Radar for this years ago, rdar://problem/46773896. Doubt anyone looked at it. I am confused how nobody seems to have also ran into this considering the WebKit homepage demonstrates this quite well.

Re: Scrollbars are becoming a problem

#510

It's not just scrollbars. It's the elimination of window borders. Aside from not being able to differentiate one window from another similarly colored window in the background, it's nearly impossible to click and hold on anything along the edge to resize the window. It's the overloading of the title bar with so much shit like search boxes and extraneous buttons that a user has almost no place to grip to move the wind…

Not that you're wrong, but IMO the moving and resizing complaints are resolved by the Ubuntu behavior of (IIRC) alt-leftclick-drag and alt-middleclick-drag. It completely eliminates the need to find any special target within the window: just click anywhere inside it.

Not very useful for people that can only use one hand.
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