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France bans all pro-Palestinian demonstrations

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Re: France bans all pro-Palestinian demonstrations

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Post by shemii »

whatshisface wrote: post #125
shemii wrote: post #124

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In my opinion you shouldn't be worried about that possibility, the presence of the US in the middle east right now is probably just to deter other parties from escalating the conflict. The US has no interest and no intent for entering Gaza, Israel has the resources to deal with Hamas on it's own. One of the most important parts of this conflict I think which most people here aren't talking about ia the geopolitics in…

Israel has bombed airports in Syria only a few days ago. They seem willing to strain the American protection and could little by little provoke an escalation involving regional powers, leading to our involvement. The one thing that could make this catastrophe worse is if America is drawn in.

One need not forget that Israel too has no interest in an all out conflict. Also the syrian attack iirc was to prevent Iran's foreign minister from landing there.

Everyone's (except maybe Iran's) hope is that this conflict does not escalate any more.

Re: France bans all pro-Palestinian demonstrations

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Post by invalidname »

lamp987 wrote: post #120
msla wrote: post #112

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Because killing babies is good as long as you don't decapitate them? OK.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

That is not a straw man argument. If anything you seem to be conducting one by focusing on a single detail to discredit a narrative. Children were executed in cold blood. That's a fact. The method of execution is really irrelevant here.

Re: France bans all pro-Palestinian demonstrations

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Post by raxxorraxor »

whatshisface wrote: post #125
shemii wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my opinion you shouldn't be worried about that possibility, the presence of the US in the middle east right now is probably just to deter other parties from escalating the conflict. The US has no interest and no intent for entering Gaza, Israel has the resources to deal with Hamas on it's own. One of the most important parts of this conflict I think which most people here aren't talking about ia the geopolitics in…

Israel has bombed airports in Syria only a few days ago. They seem willing to strain the American protection and could little by little provoke an escalation involving regional powers, leading to our involvement. The one thing that could make this catastrophe worse is if America is drawn in.

Not only a few days ago, they do that on a regular basis by now because there are regular shipments of weapons by Iran. Syria in its state of civil war doesn't have much influence in the northern regions, where Iran tried to deploy the weapons against Israel.

Re: France bans all pro-Palestinian demonstrations

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Post by raxxorraxor »

lamp987 wrote: post #121
kaycey2022 wrote: post #114

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Wait who said it was fabricated? It’s been widely reported to be true afaik

>It’s been widely reported to be true afaik Its been widely reported without evidence existing, which should have been a redflag for anyone with brain. It was just "trust me bro" by the prime minister. Everybody has been slowly backtracking on it over the last 2 days. Including Israel itself: https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/12/middleeast/israel-hamas-b...

And the statement that it would be fabricated should be taken as it is? Doesn't explain the witnesses though.

Re: France bans all pro-Palestinian demonstrations

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Post by invalidname »

fzil wrote: post #101
snird wrote: post #93

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funny how you only care about israeli babies. are the palestinian babies too brown for you to empathize with?

That's nonsense. I care a lot about Palestinian babies as an Israeli. The Hamas is the reason they are at risk.

Anyone who wants to support the Palestinian people needs to understand that the biggest obstacle to a Palestinian state and liberty is the Hamas who is conducting a Jihad. It doesn't care about Palestinian lives and considers them casualties in a holy war.

I think the bombings are terrible and don't help the Israeli cause one bit. But I can't really blame the leadership here. After watching the photos there's a rage going on here which is exactly what the Hamas wanted.

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Post by raxxorraxor »

voisin wrote: post #66
Simulacra wrote: post #46

I think it is absolutely grotesque and distasteful to hold pro rallies for Palestine and Hamas right now, but I would not stop them. They should be free to protest and speak.

Is anyone holding pro-Hamas rallies? I have only heard of Pro-Palestinian. The two are obviously not the same.

If you hold them a few days after such an attack, that sounds like a lie.

Re: France bans all pro-Palestinian demonstrations

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Post by invalidname »

wtfwhateven wrote: post #87
snird wrote: post #86

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I would absolutely stop them. Given they are chanting "Gas the Jews" and "Rape the Jews". These are not protests - these are death marches.

>Given they are chanting "Gas the Jews" and "Rape the Jews". When?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/10/10/pro-palest...

Re: France bans all pro-Palestinian demonstrations

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Post by raxxorraxor »

giraffe_lady wrote: post #110
voisin wrote: post #88

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Ok I understand this but why prevent clean water and food and medicine from crossing the border? Why disallow them from trade while simultaneously not letting them into Israel?

So that what? They can become a thriving, economically powerful micronation on their doorstep? With better access to the political and military connections necessary to reclaim what they will always consider their land? Why would israel want that? Why would they allow it, if they have the power to prevent it.

If you are able to get a supply of rockets into your land, you can get anything that allows you to strive economically. Israel also granted them more autonomy which they repaid with terrorism. Do you just deny that fact?

The blind blame of Israel is just tiring. They still want all the land and drive out the Jews. That is no basis to found a prosperous nation.

Re: France bans all pro-Palestinian demonstrations

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Post by matthewfelgate »

Simulacra wrote: post #46

I think it is absolutely grotesque and distasteful to hold pro rallies for Palestine and Hamas right now, but I would not stop them. They should be free to protest and speak.

Palestinians are facing bombings and imminent threats. Can you understand why their supporters would want to rally at this moment?
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