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Firefox and Fastly take another step toward a privacy upgrade for the internet

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Re: Firefox and Fastly take another step toward a privacy upgrade for the internet

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Post by thesorrow »

autoexec wrote: post #12

Missing from this article is: How do I disable this. My initial thoughts are: I don't have any reason to trust fastly or their motivations. I certainly don't have any desire to use them as a proxy server for all of my HTTP traffic. I'll review the OHTTP spec carefully, which seems to have been put forward by mozilla (who I have limited faith in) and Cloudflare (whose motivations are suspect), and evaluate this in dep…

You can disable the configuration in the `network.trr.use_ohttp` field. It's already disabled on my Firefox 118.0.1 (NixOS 23.05)

Re: Firefox and Fastly take another step toward a privacy upgrade for the internet

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Post by skuhn »

captn3m0 wrote: post #28
skuhn wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Without going into trust / motivation / etc. of various organizations, OHTTP is not used for general purpose web browsing. This Fastly service is used by Mozilla in conjunction with their own origins, not to random origins on the Internet.

Sadly neither the Fastly nor the Mozilla blog clearly states this out, or lists down the origins/services for which this is enabled.

This Fastly blog post is really meant to announce the working relationship.

It's not my place to say specifically what this is for (although I imagine Mozilla may announce it themselves), but as of now it's a single use case.

Re: Firefox and Fastly take another step toward a privacy upgrade for the internet

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Post by cassianoleal »

2malaq wrote: post #30
SadTrombone wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Native would be great, but for my use case the Tab Center Reborn extension for Firefox is the best implementation of vertical tabs I've used on any browser, native or otherwise. There's other extensions like Sidebery and Tree Style Tabs, but I haven't really tried them.

So you think TCR is the best one, but you haven't really tried the other ones? How can you know?

GP is clearly comparing their experience of FF+TCR with other browsers that implement vertical tabs (either natively or via extensions).

You're arguing against a strawman.

Re: Firefox and Fastly take another step toward a privacy upgrade for the internet

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Post by hakfoo »

yawnbox wrote: post #9

Mozilla and The Tor Project have been collaborating for years. Mozilla does not have the backbone to implement Tor Browser as Private Browser mode in Firefox. Do better, Mozilla.

There's a reasonable case that Private Browsing and Tor serve different enough use cases that they're not interchangeable.

Private Browsing: The goal is to prevent embarrassment. I'm looking at porn or shopping for gifts for my spouse, and I don't want it showing up in the autocomplete/history/remarketing ads as much as possible.

Tor: The goal is to prevent imprisonment. I'm accessing stuff that's politically sensitive and either inaccessible or likely to trigger consequences if it's detected by local ISP infrastructure.

Obviously, Tor offers a higher overall security profile, but tends to break things (services using IP blacklists, services that don't do well with its performance characteristics, etc.) that people expect to work with today's Private Browsing.

ISTR when one implementation of it came out (not sure if it was Firefox's or the original Chrome Incongito mode) the launch page said point blank "this will not hide your movements from your ISP, governments, site hosts, etc."

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