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Mathematician warns US spies may be weakening next-gen encryption

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Re: Mathematician warns US spies may be weakening next-gen encryption

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Why does anyone take a US-based seriously as a standards authority? It seems like a transparent conflict of interest.

Because your options are Beijing or DC. We like to pretend the age of empires is past but realistically we still live in a time of where there are two major world powers and everyone gets to decide which side of the line they want to fall on, accept American hegemony or submit to Chinese control.

Re: Mathematician warns US spies may be weakening next-gen encryption

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post #3

Why does anyone take a US-based seriously as a standards authority? It seems like a transparent conflict of interest.

Because your options are Beijing or DC. We like to pretend the age of empires is past but realistically we still live in a time of where there are two major world powers and everyone gets to decide which side of the line they want to fall on, accept American hegemony or submit to Chinese control.

so essentially: "because you only have worse choices"

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because your options are Beijing or DC. We like to pretend the age of empires is past but realistically we still live in a time of where there are two major world powers and everyone gets to decide which side of the line they want to fall on, accept American hegemony or submit to Chinese control.

so essentially: "because you only have worse choices"

Except that in one I can say "my president is an idiot. We need a leadership change" without wiping my credit score or being detained.

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post #3

Why does anyone take a US-based seriously as a standards authority? It seems like a transparent conflict of interest.

Because your options are Beijing or DC. We like to pretend the age of empires is past but realistically we still live in a time of where there are two major world powers and everyone gets to decide which side of the line they want to fall on, accept American hegemony or submit to Chinese control.

There is plenty of non-backdoored cryptography to use. It’s just the US forces various entities to use their backdoored crypto in order to get grants and government contracts and regulatory approvals.

For example, Satoshi Nakamoto chose a very interesting, lightly used elliptic curve secp256k1 for Bitcoin because for various reasons he was very confident it wasn’t backdoored, and obviously it has stood the test of time https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Secp256k1

Re: Mathematician warns US spies may be weakening next-gen encryption

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

so essentially: "because you only have worse choices"

Except that in one I can say "my president is an idiot. We need a leadership change" without wiping my credit score or being detained.

Ha, you can say that in China too (about the US president lol).

Re: Mathematician warns US spies may be weakening next-gen encryption

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"All we can do is tell people that NIST are the ones in the room making the decisions, but if you don't believe us, there's no way you could verify that without being inside NIST" says Moody.

There's our problem - right there!

If a body as important as NIST is not so utterly transparent that any random interested person cannot comb through every meeting, memo, and coffee break conversation then it needs disbanding and replacing with something that properly serves the public.

We have bastardised technology to create a world of panopticonic surveillance, and then misused it by scrutinising the private lives of simple citizens.

This is arse-backwards. If monitoring and auditing technology has any legitimate use the only people who should morally (though willingly) give-up some of their privacy are those that serve in public, in our parliaments, councils, congress, government agencies and standards bodies.

> All we can do is tell people

No. You can prove it, and if you cannot, step aside for leadership better suited to serving the public interest.

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