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OMGPOP CEO tweets: "Shay Pierce was the weakest employee on the team"

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When a CEO thinks about his own interests and the interest of his product : He is upholding the ideals of company, competition and capitalism.

When a Employee things about his own interests and the interest of his product : He is selfish, evil and a non team player.

Good hardworking people != somebody who MUST work for free sacrificing their time and energy to make somebody else a millionaire.

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Even more reason to buy the developer's independent game, Connectrode. It's only $0.99. http://www.deepplaid.com/connectrode/Site/Connectrode.html Show him he made the right decision.

I'd like to but can't, because his "actively destructive to the healthy functioning of that ecosystem" also applies to Apple's iOS app store and the independence of my profession. I hope he reconsiders the landlord he accepted.

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Reasonable question, but I suspect the answer is, practically speaking, "no". Two important things to remember about negotiating contracts: A) They are mainly about the spirit of the agreement, and B) If any of the language actually gets as far as being tested in a court and you're just an individual, you're probably already fucked. Zynga/OMGPOP clearly think it's unreasonable for any of their employees to do any out…

I'm not suggesting that this would work for subverting an agreement as it pertains to work done while an employee. The grandparent specifically referred to an employer demanding past work, presumably predating any business relationship.

Right. And I'm saying that doesn't matter.

Your approach might be enough to win a lawsuit. But he probably can't afford to fight a lawsuit, so whether or not he'd eventually win doesn't matter. Even if he could, it would be a hollow victory. He'd get to keep his modestly successful iPhone game, but it would cost him his job and maybe a year's salary on lawyers, plus 2-3 years of aggravation.

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Google has a lot of really stupid policies that are unethical and hurt peoples' careers. For example, Perf. Five percent of employees end up on PIPs for no other reason than getting shat on in Neutron-Jack-style stack-ranking. People on PIPs can't transfer. They rarely actually get fired (most quit, most PIPs on people who stay are inconclusive; rare is for a person to get fired and even rarer is for a person to actu…

I was going to respond that you seem to have an axe to grind. Then I realized you're Michael Church. Never mind, carry on. http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-03-14/tech/31163139...

I think this post does have some good points. For example, I still remember Google Wave. I even did a Slashdot submission on the real name fiasco: http://slashdot.org/submission/1778830/google-is-gagging-use...

Re: OMGPOP CEO tweets: "Shay Pierce was the weakest employee on the team"

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I bought a copy of Connectrode ( http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/connectrode/id438450056?mt=8 ) to support the guy, but it's actually a pretty fun game on its own. It'll be hilarious if he ends up on the leaderboard because of his former boss's lack of civility and professional decorum.

99% of the reviews are gushing 5-star Zynga-related back pats. Added in the last 4 days.

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Porter forgot the number 1 rule of politics: If your opponent is making a mistake, don't stop him. I understand what Pierce is saying (and can't help sympathizing), but I can't help thinking that writing that editorial was poor taste on Pierce's part, and probably would have reflected poorly on him had Porter kept his mouth shut and not turned him into a martyr. I mean, if you disagree with a potential employer's" va…

you have hard proof that said employer is actively clubbing baby seals From all we've read about Zynga they seem to fit the bill just shy of actually clubbing animals...

It'd be a great sequel to Farmville.

Imagine the viral traffic you could get when people have seen "moe clubbed two obnoxious baby seals" in your facebook ticker a few times an hour for a while.

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Draw Something... deleted. (Not that it will make any difference to OMGPOP, but as a matter of principal). Connectrode [1] - purchased. It's not my usual kind of game, but it's the best way I can think of to show support. [1] http://www.deepplaid.com/connectrode/Site/Connectrode.html [Edit - actually it's pretty good!]

I bought it too. Any tiny fly in the ointment for the people who brought Farmville on us is worth a dollar to me.

Re: OMGPOP CEO tweets: "Shay Pierce was the weakest employee on the team"

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True. It is indeed very unprofessional. But how come people like him are held up to such high standards? When you're not anyone important you can be brutally honest and say what you want like everyone else does. But as soon as you're in the public eye you're put on this pedestal. This is what scares the hell out of me. I'm a very uncensored person who says what he means and means what he says (and am an asshole somet…

Those people you name are all artists who make their living performing. "Professional" for them has a different meaning. But they still can't say anything they want without censure. Look at how much crap Kanye West took for "Imma let you finish", for example. You will very rarely find them talking trash about people they've worked with, and when it does it often has consequences. Megan Fox, for example, got fired fro…

Quite. Charlie Sheen survived assault charges, and got canned in no time flat for mocking his boss.

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> I mean, if you disagree with a potential employer's" values", it's career suicide to... It's not career suicide. People should talk about shitty places to work more often, and there's no way Zynga can keep another company from hiring the guy. The only time you see "you'll never work in this town again!" work is when all the companies are colluding to control the labor market. In programming that hasn't happened yet…

There's a world difference between speaking ill of an open source project and speaking ill of someone you couldn't negotiate a contract with. We're used to people ranting about open source projects. It happens every day. In a perfect world, people would be able to expose employers who are doing wrong with impunity. In the real world, it's difficult to do so without repercussions. How do you think companies like Zynga…

Well, given how many people Zynga is buying vs. the mass exodus that seems to be happening in S.F. from them, I'd be interested in seeing their recruitment numbers.

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Warning: this is going to get very long and ranty. I worked on Wall Street 2006 to 2008, and I had friends on the Street before that. I went into "tech" in 2008, saw the mini-crash and read the Sequoia ScareDoc, and now I'm watching this bubble. Wall Street has a bad reputation, but I've seen far worse ethics and much less professionalism in technology, which is supposed to be above that garbage. On Wall Street, peop…

Your dig at Google here is astonishingly out of place. Even if what you say is true, you're comparing fraud and serious ethical violations with... being bureaucratic and having bad legacy systems? I don't even know what to say. Also, what you say isn't true. Google has the shallowest management structure and the most aggressive attitude towards refactoring (both in the large and small) of any company I've ever worked…

I don't think it's really possible to have a constructive yet critical discussion about Google culture on HN. There are too many members here with personal ties to the company. I imagine Facebook would be similarly hard to publicly deconstruct.
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