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Re: Atlassian Acquires Loom

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Loom is probably the simplest billion-dollar piece of software, but it's also excellent software and I am happy they're getting paid. Screen recording before Loom was a pain. You had to open up some program, start it, save the file, upload the file somewhere, and share it. And if you had to edit the recording at all ... probably start over. With Loom it's all one click and it's ready to share the instant you hit the…

My immediate reaction was that value-wise it was a joke, how can they be worth $1 billion? I agree with what you're saying here though, one click, ACL controlled and simple to use videos. Concur with the enablement of the remote culture. I would have thought Atlassian could clone that so simply. The Loom software is super buggy though, I have to open their site or extension or desktop app multiple times before it sta…

> The Loom software is super buggy though

Perfect fit for Atlassian’s portfolio then

Re: Atlassian Acquires Loom

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This make perfect sense. Atlassian is cornering the market of "features nobody ask for but make for good sales pitch to clueless managers".

In what world is loom something no one asked for? I, and my team, use it everyday and have at my past two jobs as well. For engineers it’s a life saver being able to share a quick video of some code and the bug youre getting (or asking what some piece of code does) and also forcing junior engineers to do this for a PR guarantees the feature works/is a form of QA.

People really don't like Atlassian around these parts

Re: Atlassian Acquires Loom

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In what world is loom something no one asked for? I, and my team, use it everyday and have at my past two jobs as well. For engineers it’s a life saver being able to share a quick video of some code and the bug youre getting (or asking what some piece of code does) and also forcing junior engineers to do this for a PR guarantees the feature works/is a form of QA.

On MacOS Loom is extremely buggy and, even when it works, is way worse than MacOS’ built-in screen recording.

Loom is gold on windows.

Re: Atlassian Acquires Loom

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At some point, companies become big enough that innovation is a risk (Innovater's dilemma). Atlassian is likely at this stage. Ofcourse, loom's tech is nothing impressive, one could argue that only a small segment of enterprise Loom customers would be willing to convert to Atlassian ecosystem. Nonetheless, the show must go on and Atlassian has to choose action instead of inaction to please the stock market. Good exit…

I think it's more likely that Atlassian gives it away for free to its client base .. groups like Linear are coming after them and tools like Loom make a material difference in getting quality work out the door. we use it for outward facing and training material, but the royal honey is when you can async-align on product initiatives down to the pixel. Video is a powerful story telling tool in today's remote world. Fig…

Atlassian gives not much out for free the new whiteboard feature in confluence will also be monetizes like everything.

E.g. automations for their products will cost soon meaning you need to upgrade your product to next tier. After we implemented everywhere...

Re: Atlassian Acquires Loom

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This is a bummer. I really liked Loom. I was surprised to find some really neat video tools now by Prezi. Who else is doing good stuff around quick async collaboration?

It's kind of silly but at my work we're using Gather. Walking your little pixel art character around the "office" is silly at first, but it's really lowered the friction to short video interactions. It's way less friction than sending someone a link and waiting around for them to join a meeting.

We use Gather too; it's amazing for real time collaboration. I use Loom to summarize work and send updates to a larger audience in an async fashion.

Re: Atlassian Acquires Loom

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Coming from a deep, shameful corner of ignorance, but what's special about recording a screen and sharing it via the comms tool of choice (IM, Slack, Signal, e-mail)? I do love the idea of sharing a screen recording of features though.

Loom makes it very easy to voice over and annotate a recording, with both individually editable in a way raw screen recordings don't support, and to share the result via a link. It's not (yet?) heavily used among engs where I am, but we love it anyway for massively shortening the feedback loop with designers who can drop a 30-second demo of some prototype UI at the head of a Slack thread and asynchronously receive th…

I think lots of people haven't realized that video clips like Loom are actually built into Slack. The button that looks like a video camera below the input text box does it.

It's not a full replacement, but it's the one you already have.

Re: Atlassian Acquires Loom

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I doubt people will record 15 minute videos to report an issue. From my experience people are much better at recording a relevant video vs. describing the issue in our text.

My experience with enterprise customers is that recording a video is much more effort than typing "the thingy won't foo the bar" ...

That’s mainly because creating and submitting videos is hard with current tools.

Re: Atlassian Acquires Loom

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Loom makes it very easy to voice over and annotate a recording, with both individually editable in a way raw screen recordings don't support, and to share the result via a link. It's not (yet?) heavily used among engs where I am, but we love it anyway for massively shortening the feedback loop with designers who can drop a 30-second demo of some prototype UI at the head of a Slack thread and asynchronously receive th…

I think lots of people haven't realized that video clips like Loom are actually built into Slack. The button that looks like a video camera below the input text box does it. It's not a full replacement, but it's the one you already have.

I had never even noticed that button before. thanks.

Re: Atlassian Acquires Loom

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post #166

At some point, companies become big enough that innovation is a risk (Innovater's dilemma). Atlassian is likely at this stage. Ofcourse, loom's tech is nothing impressive, one could argue that only a small segment of enterprise Loom customers would be willing to convert to Atlassian ecosystem. Nonetheless, the show must go on and Atlassian has to choose action instead of inaction to please the stock market. Good exit…

Atlassian is not afraid of innovating, they can’t. They just hired the worst developers again and again. Good students go to Canva, dropouts go to Atlassian.

Talk to partners. Everyone is pulling their hair at the new APIs. It’s architecturally bad, inside their systems. Even the architects are outputting crap! The best programmers of the company!

I’ve move my data outside Atlassian to prevent loss…

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