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Ask HN: Has anyone gotten complete, permanent relief from tinnitus?

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Re: Ask HN: Has anyone gotten complete, permanent relief from tinnitus?

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It's fun to test what happens when you play the same wave through your headphones but one channel is inverted. Funny enough lots of stereo widening magic relies on a physical property of sound not existing when it's in your head.

If you ever wire a loudspeaker channel the wrong way around, it feels very weird as a lot (but not all for a stereo mix) of the sound will cancel with the other channel in the middle of the speakers and you can move your head through this dead zone. I've never tried it with headphones, but I suppose even though destructive addition isn't going to happen it might affect things like intended spatial perception.

Happened once when prepping for a language aural exam. With no immediate fix and the start of the exam pending, we moved some desks instead!

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone gotten complete, permanent relief from tinnitus?

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The Cochrane Collaboration does systematic reviews of the research into health interventions.

There are quite a few reviews of different tinnitus interventions here, from zinc supplements to cognitive behavioral therapy https://www.cochranelibrary.com/search

One common theme skimming through is that there is no intervention known to be effective for everyone. But it is worth looking at the ones that have been studied and seeing if any might be worth trying for you.

Full disclosure: I work for the Campbell Collaboration which is essentially the sister organization of Cochrane doing systematic reviews on subjects outside of health (education, crime prevention, business and management, international development and lots else) campbellcollaboration.org/

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone gotten complete, permanent relief from tinnitus?

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> "My message is not to learn to live with that beep, but to train your brain to classify that sound as harmless, allowing you to forget about it" This is essentially what I do. I've had it tinnitus for some 20 years now. Both ears, a constant high pitched ringing. Most of the time I honestly don't notice it, even in quiet rooms. As soon as something reminds me about it, or I'm trying to listen for something quiet, o…

Exactly the same for me. I’ve had it for as long as I remember and chalk it up to going to too many punk rock shows as an angsty teen (and never wore ear plugs because I was “too cool”). It’s always there for me but I usually forget about it and only notice it when something draws my attention to it. According to an app I’ve used on my phone (Mimi Hearing Test), I have about 14db HL in each ear. Somewhat related, but…

Same for me, yup. Wasn't paying attention to it and... I did the dumb thing and read these comments. Oh well.

As for the loud show thing I was already wearing ear plugs back in 1980, never got into the blasting the speakers/headphones, and now I have both significant high frequency hearing attenuation and a 25 year old case of nicely balanced tinnitus. Oh well.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone gotten complete, permanent relief from tinnitus?

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That's a very pleasant noise. It doesn't make my tinnitus go away though.

Do you have bone conduction headphones?

No, but I'm thinking I'm going to buy some, yeah.

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What was the steroid? What caused your tinnitus or did it appear for no apparent reason?

Probably Prednisone, its the go-to anti-inflammatory steroid that doctors prescribe for just general inflammation treatment. The list of things it treats is almost comically long.

I just went through a few prednisone for a case of bursitis, and it worked fantastic for that. Had no effect on the tinnitus though. Oh well.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone gotten complete, permanent relief from tinnitus?

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I went to Maui and got tossed around in some big crashing waves. One time a bunch of water, and probably sand, got shoved into my ears by the force of the wave churn. I was pretty deaf for a day or two, but then eventually woke up one morning with black ooze all over my face and pillow, perfect hearing, and my tinnitus was gone.

I also dramatically reduced eating cheese and anything with lots of gelatin or thickeners in it.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone gotten complete, permanent relief from tinnitus?

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I'm a physician with lifelong bilateral tinnitus. Multiple pitches, quite loud, and acutely worse on the right side for the last 1.5 years or so (with some slight hearing loss). I've spent a lot of time on PubMed, but so far I've not found anything that helps mine, even partially or temporarily. I've consulted with close friends that have significant expertise is relevant fields, which has not been fruitful. Thankful…

Have you talked about the Lenire device with your colleagues at all? It got FDA approval and is slowly rolling out as they train audiologists. There’s a Lenire provider where I live (Austin) and I’m on the fence about scheduling an appointment to get one.

I've looked at similar devices which had promising smaller trials but failed to show effectiveness in larger trials / systematic reviews. Will keep my eye out, but would probably wait for better research.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35773272/

> Several of the authors have competing interests. BC, CH, EM, SLL, COC, SH, HHL are employees, consultants and/or shareholders of Neuromod Devices. BL, SV, DAH serve on the clinical advisory board of Neuromod Devices and receive monetary compensation for their contribution.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone gotten complete, permanent relief from tinnitus?

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I'm a physician with lifelong bilateral tinnitus. Multiple pitches, quite loud, and acutely worse on the right side for the last 1.5 years or so (with some slight hearing loss). I've spent a lot of time on PubMed, but so far I've not found anything that helps mine, even partially or temporarily. I've consulted with close friends that have significant expertise is relevant fields, which has not been fruitful. Thankful…

> but can really be maddening when trying to fall asleep does white noise help?..

It masks it slightly. At the volumes required to compete with the loudness of the tinnitus, the white noise itself is problematic.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone gotten complete, permanent relief from tinnitus?

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It works for people that have tinnitus due to tight neck muscles. Tinnitus due to damaged ears is a whole different beast.

When you twist your head around, do you hear a grinding noise? For me, it’s almost like a cardboard box being dragged across a sandy floor. It is a real noise because I’ve been able to record it with my phone. I also have tinnitus. I wonder if it’s all related?

In your case, it might just be. Tinnitus due to TMJ, tight neck muscles, etc is very common, and in all those cases it is curable by treating the underlying mechanical issues.

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Citations? I remember the prescriptions and Doctors' notes for the diet itself. He had to endure through IV drug treatments at home, was not able to sleep for 17 days because of the given drugs. I remember cooking everything without salt (then buying reduced sodium salt for some time because he missed the taste of it to a certain degree), stop buying sparkling water, how my father tried to cope with the remaining tin…

Could you elaborate on the sparkling drinks? Do you know of a rationale?

Not sparkling drinks, but sparkling water in general. In our country, sparkling water is way more stronger than most European brands like Pellegrino or Perrier, hence they contain a lot of sodium. In the range of 100-140 mg/l, just looking to two different brands’ bottles.
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