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Re: Ask HN: Has anyone gotten complete, permanent relief from tinnitus?

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I’ve had tinnitus for about one year now. There is no permanent relief or treatment. Lots of snake oil. My hearing was tested by an Audiologist and my hearing was normal. The “sound” I observe is high pitched. Using a tone generator I matched it to around 16,500 Hz. Interestingly, if I play that tone I get temporary relief on the order of 2-10 minutes. As far as I understand my tinnitus is the result of something goi…

I’ve had tinnitus for something like 5 years now and mine varies from day-to-day. Mine seems to be somewhat connected to diet. I think salt might be a trigger. If I have a French Fries or some other salty snack, I’m in for louder ringing an hour or two later.

I seem to remember that high blood pressure could worsen tinnitus, so that might have something to do with it.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone gotten complete, permanent relief from tinnitus?

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There's a trick which I can't recall the name of, which involves thumping your fingers across the back of your neck, which temporarily resolves tinnitus in some people. I have very mild tinnitus, and have noticed that that does quiet it. This is a question for everyone I suppose, but does anyone know why that works? Could it be possible to develop an implant or something which generates the same effect?

It works for people that have tinnitus due to tight neck muscles. Tinnitus due to damaged ears is a whole different beast.

When you twist your head around, do you hear a grinding noise? For me, it’s almost like a cardboard box being dragged across a sandy floor. It is a real noise because I’ve been able to record it with my phone.

I also have tinnitus. I wonder if it’s all related?

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone gotten complete, permanent relief from tinnitus?

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I would just like to point out that in recent years, in some action films, the sound effects editors are adding a high-pitched tone after the explosions, which in my case rises a real tinnitus that last along minutes. In particular, the moment I hear this tone I quickly fast-forward the scene or stop watching the film with a fit of indignation, before a real tinnitus is triggered due that mere fashion.

Thankfully there are other more professional conscientious sound editors that do not do such 'plunder' to our auditive system. I just keep my fingers crossed that they will keep their good common sense, which unfortunately has not been the case in a recent high budget film that was released recently :/

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone gotten complete, permanent relief from tinnitus?

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I got tinnitus after getting covid (which turned into a bad case of long covid that I'm still battling). It started out as maybe a 2 out of 10. Present. Annoying, but not super disrupting. I could play some youtube videos with a creek of water on the lowest sound setting and I couldn't hear it. Then one day a couple of months later it jumped up to a 5 or so. This was disruptive. I had to crank the volume up to about 60% vs 5% before and I had to use a tinnitus flosser matched to my frequency. This was bad. I was losing my mind.

I went back to my audiologist and got a hearing aid to reprogram my brain. I did 90 days of light programming and got reduced to maybe a 3.5. After 90 days she cranked the programming up to more intense and I'm now down to maybe 2.5. Definitely livable. Annoying, present, detectable. But also easy to lose track of it when distracted.

I hope it goes away some day. It's only in my left ear and a hearing test showed I did have partial hearing loss in my left ear at higher frequencies.

One interesting thing in my experience is that just like when you get a new eye glass prescription they ask if A or B is better but here they asked if my tinnitus sounded more like A or B and for every single one I could not answer. It was not like either of them. Not even close. It somehow did not compare.

There is a new approach out there and my audiologist has inquired to be part of the next wave (it's super early still) and I will try it out if she gets it. It's a new technique involving modulation and the tongue.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone gotten complete, permanent relief from tinnitus?

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Forgot to mention, one of my coping strategies was pretending "well I just got home from a concert" cause you kind of have that temporary ear ringing going to bed after a night out at a concert and "pretending" this was no different. It was comforting somehow.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone gotten complete, permanent relief from tinnitus?

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I also have what I'd now say is quiet tinnitus, when I used to party a lot it was pretty bad. I won't notice it during the day and I don't really notice it at night, however that wasn't the case a year or two ago. Things I've done to try prevent it getting worse: * iOS has a limit volume option - that's on permanently. * I use a speaker on soft volume in the room when wfh rather than headphones when listening to musi…

I've been having tinnitus for at least 5 years now, closer to 10. I'm late 20s so my assumption at first was always that it was because of partying, but I realised that I almost never partied without earplugs because I got it already before I was old enough to go to clubs. So I don't think it is related to loud noise, however, I match most of the things that you say.

1. I always set my volume to the lowest setting possible. I do not trust what Apple says about the 'safe' volume because it still is quite hard. And I am using it with Airpods so I think it should be right, but I still put it lower.

2. At home I always use speakers and almost never headphones, for that exact reason.

3. I always carry earplugs for loud music. (funny story: I went to a bar a few weeks back in Korea and everyone in the group (koreans) asked me at some point if I had some medical condition with my ears since I was wearing earplugs. It just is not used at all there).

4. I try to do meetings with my speakers instead of my airpods, does not always work of course.

5. I often go to sleep with some noise, be it TV, Youtube or Spotify.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone gotten complete, permanent relief from tinnitus?

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The reality is that the Internet is often useless for this sort of thing. I, like many others, got back problems during the pandemic. In my case science will mostly tell you to do nothing, health care will give you physical therapy, the Internet is full of instant relief stretches, short workout programs and psychological solutions ("don't care" which plays into "do nothing" like science suggests).

I managed to rehabilitate myself mostly by walking for hundreds of hours. That isn't really some trick or secret. That is what health care would eventually tell you to do. It just isn't reflected as much as the easy and the qualified solutions. Now I got tinnitus a few weeks back and it's the same landscape on the Internet. But getting the information isn't really the problem, it is making use of it. It's easy to find a high level of engagement and it's easy to find a high level of knowledge. The challenge is finding both.

I have always been somewhat sensitive to noise, but a lot of people aren't. They have whining fridges, squeaking doors or noise pollution all over the place. They don't really care. You are dismissing symptom reduction a bit. But as far I can tell that is the solution for most. A combination of stress reduction, lifestyle reform and behavioural therapy, potentially with a hearing aid or noise masking. And then it gets manageable enough that they don't care. Maybe you can do that yourself, but possibly you can't and will conclude that it doesn't work.

Of course like I said you shouldn't trust me. I'm going to go find whatever specialist health care can give me without paying too much extra.

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