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All of this is just awful. The posturing over it in America is terrible, it's not about you and your political tribes, but you're somehow making it about you, when people are dying. Did their statement cause deaths in the Levant? No, it's just posturing. Does this truck prevent any deaths in the Levant? More useless posturing, with an added element of incitement to violence against those who dare disagree with us. Je…
So we shouldn’t have consequences for our actions? Are you saying I don’t understand forgiveness for mistakes? That is why I said the student groups that retracted their statements should be spared, but this is saying you should be able to run into a crowded theater and yell fire with no consequence. Also like usual with the over reaction. This isn’t a thought crime. It’s simply amplifying their own hate speech. If t…
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#52I fully support isreal defending themselves (both from a security perspective and a revenge perspective). With that being said, i get what these people are also saying. Equating palistine with hamas is like blaming me for obama droning a wedding. Were these student groups actually supporting hamas or did they just identify with the people of palistine?
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#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
All of this is just awful. The posturing over it in America is terrible, it's not about you and your political tribes, but you're somehow making it about you, when people are dying. Did their statement cause deaths in the Levant? No, it's just posturing. Does this truck prevent any deaths in the Levant? More useless posturing, with an added element of incitement to violence against those who dare disagree with us. Je…
So we shouldn’t have consequences for our actions? Are you saying I don’t understand forgiveness for mistakes? That is why I said the student groups that retracted their statements should be spared, but this is saying you should be able to run into a crowded theater and yell fire with no consequence. Also like usual with the over reaction. This isn’t a thought crime. It’s simply amplifying their own hate speech. If t…
How would being spared work though? Would the truck run the route again with crossed over, corrected names? What if someone was doxxed by mistake, run an apology list truck?
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The student groups signed the letter as legal entities. But not every single member of those groups necessarily agreed to it. Members of at least some of those group were not even notified about the letter.
There is an easy solution if a group does something you don’t agree with. Post your disagreement with the group and that you are leaving.
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#55I fully support isreal defending themselves (both from a security perspective and a revenge perspective). With that being said, i get what these people are also saying. Equating palistine with hamas is like blaming me for obama droning a wedding. Were these student groups actually supporting hamas or did they just identify with the people of palistine?
I'd say it's much more like blaming you for American terrorist actions (interestingly, I can't think of examples). Obama is the president of the country.
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#56Is there any public forum or institution in the US where criticizing Israel won't cause a shitstorm? Is there any other topic that has a similar effect?
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
The student groups signed the letter as legal entities. But not every single member of those groups necessarily agreed to it. Members of at least some of those group were not even notified about the letter.
There is an easy solution if a group does something you don’t agree with. Post your disagreement with the group and that you are leaving.
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I don’t think publicizing someone’s views (if you think them repugnant) is implied violence at all , nor is it harassment. Perhaps they want their community to shun them, which is a good and noble resolution to the general problem of someone exhibiting abhorrent behavior (note that I am not of an opinion on whether or not this original behavior is abhorrent). They doxxed themselves when they published their views. Th…
> Perhaps they want their community to shun them, which is a good and noble resolution to the general problem of someone exhibiting abhorrent behavior We can make them walk around wearing pieces of flair so we can easily identify them. I see why you may want to tug at this thread but I wouldn't. People driving around in trucks identifying you isn't going to play out in favor of whatever zionist fantasies you may hold…
The people doing the amplification here aren’t forcing anyone to do anything, which is a critical difference.
> whatever zionist fantasies you may hold
If I were forced to pick a side in this battle, I think the result would be the opposite of what you expect.
That said, I fully support the right of their opponents to yell loudly (with this truck) about their discontent. It’s peaceful protest of the best kind.
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#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don’t think publicizing someone’s views (if you think them repugnant) is implied violence at all , nor is it harassment. Perhaps they want their community to shun them, which is a good and noble resolution to the general problem of someone exhibiting abhorrent behavior (note that I am not of an opinion on whether or not this original behavior is abhorrent). They doxxed themselves when they published their views. Th…
You don’t think if Elon Musk tweets tomorrow “@polygamous_bat doesn’t like X, or dogecoins! His phone number is 0123 and address is XYZ”, that’s harassment? None of what he would say is false, but by amplifying it to his audience of trolls he just increases the chance of something “accidentally” happening to me. Same here. Whether you say something or not, putting your face on a billboard is guaranteed to attract cra…