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Re: Ask HN: Has anyone gotten complete, permanent relief from tinnitus?

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i think there is research being done on cilia regeneration: https://news.mit.edu/2022/frequency-therapeutics-hearing-reg... obviously time to get approved/confirm it works - etc lies ahead. other than that - i had taken up drums and was paranoid of tinnitus, i could hear ringing etc. once i got audiologist confirmation my hearing was 20/20 guess what? It went away. Anxiety levels can affect it...obviously it was mild…

> audiologist confirmation my hearing was 20/20 it’s possible you didn’t go to an audiologist. (/s)

i was thinking that while typing haha.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone gotten complete, permanent relief from tinnitus?

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Considering all of our hearing gets damaged slowly over the course of our lives, why does tinnitus only effect some people? I've had it for short periods of time after listening to loud live music, but hours later it just fades out to disappear. A musician once told me that it was the sound of your ear getting damaged and when you hear that you'll likely never hear those frequencies again. I'm not convinced it's an e…

>A musician once told me that it was the sound of your ear getting damaged and when you hear that you'll likely never hear those frequencies again.

This is a line in the film Children of Men (highly recommended), can't remember if it's in the book but either way it isn't correct.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone gotten complete, permanent relief from tinnitus?

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In highschool I basically lost my hearing on one side. It went silent for a little bit and now I have a static/beeping on it almost constantly.

Had overpressure therapy in the weeks/months after but didn't help. Have a bone anchored heading aid (via implanted screw) but doesn't work well.

Learned to live with it but mostly terrified if something will happen to my other ear... still have a few decades to go I hope, so better hold on to the hearing I have or science better hurry up

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone gotten complete, permanent relief from tinnitus?

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This is the research people are watching at the tinitustalk forums

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/06/230605181219.h...

https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/new-university-of-michi...

Apparently it's in the process of being commercialised in the US.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone gotten complete, permanent relief from tinnitus?

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Considering all of our hearing gets damaged slowly over the course of our lives, why does tinnitus only effect some people? I've had it for short periods of time after listening to loud live music, but hours later it just fades out to disappear. A musician once told me that it was the sound of your ear getting damaged and when you hear that you'll likely never hear those frequencies again. I'm not convinced it's an e…

Definitely a mix of physical and nerve stimulation.

Either way temporary exposure can cause temporary issues, once it's permanent though it seems irreversible for now

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone gotten complete, permanent relief from tinnitus?

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a trick which I can't recall the name of, which involves thumping your fingers across the back of your neck, which temporarily resolves tinnitus in some people. I have very mild tinnitus, and have noticed that that does quiet it. This is a question for everyone I suppose, but does anyone know why that works? Could it be possible to develop an implant or something which generates the same effect?

It works for people that have tinnitus due to tight neck muscles. Tinnitus due to damaged ears is a whole different beast.

I went to a lot of loud concerts when I was younger and just assumed that I had tinnitus from those, and until now, I had no idea there were multiple causes of tinnitus.

I had assumed this was incurable but if my tinnitus is from tight neck muscles, that seems fixable. I'm going to reach out to my doctor about this. Thank you, I think you might have just greatly improved my life.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone gotten complete, permanent relief from tinnitus?

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SciShow on YouTube just published a video on this topic. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yAFOvDT16EA&t=342s&pp=ygUQU2Np...

There's some mediation treatment somewhat similar to the mirror box used to help amputees with phantom limb pain. It's all still early but something to look into further.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone gotten complete, permanent relief from tinnitus?

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It's impossible to cure. The 'ringing' sound people hear isn't actually a sound. It is how the brain processes signals produced by damaged Stereocilia. If the 'ringing' is constant it means the cilia are permanently damaged. While it would, in theory, be possible to use surgery on the ear and some sort of lazer to completely remove all damaged cilia to avoid them outputting a damaged signal, this procedure would be i…

There's a trick which I can't recall the name of, which involves thumping your fingers across the back of your neck, which temporarily resolves tinnitus in some people. I have very mild tinnitus, and have noticed that that does quiet it. This is a question for everyone I suppose, but does anyone know why that works? Could it be possible to develop an implant or something which generates the same effect?

Your tinnitus is likely being caused by tight sternocleidomastoid muscles (SCM). I would look into stretches to resolve that.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone gotten complete, permanent relief from tinnitus?

#30
I have had very mild tinnitus my entire life - since as early as I can remember in childhood. It's never been particularly bothersome but in a quiet room I can clearly hear it.

However, when I received the second dose of the Pfizer mRNA vaccine in 2021, within a day I had a substantial increase in tinnitus in both ears, particularly my right. I also had a persistent sensation of "fullness" in my right ear.

I went to an ENT. They were pretty skeptical of the connection to the vaccine, said they couldn't see anything physically wrong with my ears, but we had a good conversation about tinnitus in general. They told me there wasn't much anyone could do, but anecdotally, they did think that many of their patients reported actual improvement from an OTC nutritional supplement, "Lipo-flavonoid", specifically marketed for tinnitus.

https://www.amazon.com/Lipo-Flavonoid-Supplement-Recommended...

I ordered a bottle and tried it out, and sure enough, I do think it made a difference - it did seem to quiet down the tinnitus, but not back to the level I was used to.

After about 2 months the tinnitus and sensation of fullness faded.

I elected not to get the booster.

Best of luck to you. I do suggest giving this supplement a try.

For those of you skeptical about any connection to the covid vaccines, you might find this article interesting quoting the Editor-in-Chief of the journal VACCINE and head of vaccine research at Mayo Clinic. https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2022/08/08/tinnitus-widespre...

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