99% of the projects dont need dynamodb/spanner/ScyllaDB
Except dynamodb is easier to set up and use than pretty much any other db out there
Google Cloud Spanner is now half the cost of Amazon DynamoDB
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Re: Google Cloud Spanner is now half the cost of Amazon DynamoDB
#322Just moved our infra from GCP to AWS. Kubernetes clusters, LB, storage, lambdas, KMS and all of it. Google runs their tech stack as if it's a startup that builds their CV. Everything is immature, tons of hacks, undocumented features. If you are on their k8s there are tons of upcoming new versions and features that force you to revisit key hacks you put in your infra because of their misgivings. Our infra team keeps t…
It's amazing how people complain about GCP. We run a massive deployment across 100+ regions cross-cloud GCP, Azure, AWS and oh boy. GCP has good support if you are big enough. Azure though which has a much bigger share than GCP is horrendous. Absolutely garbage all around. Good luck ever getting anyone in Engineering even if you are paying for support. AWS on the other hand - Amazing. We have Ent Support so those guys in our slack channel. The TAMs are amazing. Need to get hold of someone in Route53 no problem they are on the call this week. Feature request for EKS - ok talk to the Product Manager this afternoon.
Azure is a dumpster fire from the ground up.
Re: Google Cloud Spanner is now half the cost of Amazon DynamoDB
#323Just moved our infra from GCP to AWS. Kubernetes clusters, LB, storage, lambdas, KMS and all of it. Google runs their tech stack as if it's a startup that builds their CV. Everything is immature, tons of hacks, undocumented features. If you are on their k8s there are tons of upcoming new versions and features that force you to revisit key hacks you put in your infra because of their misgivings. Our infra team keeps t…
It's amazing how people complain about GCP. We run a massive deployment across 100+ regions cross-cloud GCP, Azure, AWS and oh boy. GCP has good support if you are big enough. Azure though which has a much bigger share than GCP is horrendous. Absolutely garbage all around. Good luck ever getting anyone in Engineering even if you are paying for support. AWS on the other hand - Amazing. We have Ent Support so those guy…
Can you give Azure specifics, as you know Azure has a massive offering.
My experience has been the opposite though not without issues, Azure has some of the best corporate and security features of any cloud and it's only getting better. The zero trust model fits in so nicely with their identity platforms it's a sight to behold compared to other cloud providers which likely use some form of AAD or AD DS anyway.
Their support is responsive and they seem to know what they're talking about. (AKS)
Please provide some specifics on your experience?
Re: Google Cloud Spanner is now half the cost of Amazon DynamoDB
#324Earlier quoted context omitted.
Postgres and Spanner do different things, in different ways, with different costs, risks, and implications. You could "just use" anything that is completely different and slightly cheaper. You could use a GitHub repository and just store your records as commits, for free, that's plenty cheap and works for small projects. But not really the same thing, is it?
My point is that I've seen very, very few situations (I can think of two in my entire career so far) where a "hyperscale NoSQL database" was actually the right choice to solve the problem. I find that a lot of folks turn to these databases for imagined scale needs, not actual hard problems that need solving.
DynamoDB is fantastic for not doing things at scale. It costs a few pennies, there is nothing to set up, it's all managed for you, it is insanely reliable, and it just works. I use it for all kinds of crap that an entire RDBMS is way overkill for.
Re: Google Cloud Spanner is now half the cost of Amazon DynamoDB
#325Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or you could use DynamoDB for basically free. One month of 1GB of storage, 1kb item size, 100,000 writes, and 100,000 reads, would be $0.39 on DynamoDB on-demand. A million writes and reads respectively would be $1.63. Strongly consistent reads'd make that $1.75, and transactional writes would make it $3.00
I get it but I feel like it isn't really mine, and learning this new db/console/product/vendor that won't be around in 10-20-30 years is a waste of very limited time. Linux admin + hosting a server = my data, on my terms, until I keel over, and possibly long after that.
By the time DynamoDB goes away, that Linux server you have will have been EOL for two decades and chock full of security holes, not to mention disks filling up or getting wiped. The amount of time you'll spend tinkering with your server will dwarf the tiny amount of time it'd take to replace DynamoDB with an alternative service.
Re: Google Cloud Spanner is now half the cost of Amazon DynamoDB
#326Earlier quoted context omitted.
> AWS support is so nice, you can't believe it. This reminds me of the fond days of having weekly customers calls. We develop AWS services, and we answer our customer-support calls directly. No middle man. Just techies to techies. And we made promises to customers on the fly, and customers sometimes project managed us.
Sounds like hell...
Customers aren’t that bad, really.
Re: Google Cloud Spanner is now half the cost of Amazon DynamoDB
#327Re: Google Cloud Spanner is now half the cost of Amazon DynamoDB
#328Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I was left with a feeling that most of it is inconsistent garbage papered over with lambda functions This sounds more like an indictment of the system design than the cloud provider. What are some of these “3am” topics that made GCP a better choice?
Small examples included (I’m on my phone so these are from memory and you’ll have to forgive the lack of great detail): 1) having the project/account your in visible at the top at all times. We used SSO for “accounts” which is AWS’s way of completely separating resources; the long string that is returned is not unique in the start and the remainder is cut off: so all accounts/projects looked the same, was impossible…
> 1) having the project/account your in visible at the top at all times.
I agree that this is an annoying issue in the AWS web console.
I assume this is something that could be fixed on your end by a little bit of CSS.
Re: Google Cloud Spanner is now half the cost of Amazon DynamoDB
#329Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's amazing how people complain about GCP. We run a massive deployment across 100+ regions cross-cloud GCP, Azure, AWS and oh boy. GCP has good support if you are big enough. Azure though which has a much bigger share than GCP is horrendous. Absolutely garbage all around. Good luck ever getting anyone in Engineering even if you are paying for support. AWS on the other hand - Amazing. We have Ent Support so those guy…
Can you give Azure specifics, as you know Azure has a massive offering. My experience has been the opposite though not without issues, Azure has some of the best corporate and security features of any cloud and it's only getting better. The zero trust model fits in so nicely with their identity platforms it's a sight to behold compared to other cloud providers which likely use some form of AAD or AD DS anyway. Their…
Azure has had repeated, significant security failures that impact numerous customers. I don't understand how anyone can defend their security except through willful ignorance.
I have friends forced to use Azure and they routinely report issues with provisioning resources, things taking a very long time to spin up or simply being rejected because Azure doesn't have any capacity.
Re: Google Cloud Spanner is now half the cost of Amazon DynamoDB
#330but as always: Are you sure your data doesn't fit in PostgreSQL? You should probably try PostgreSQL first.
I wonder what the costs are compared to Aurora. I haven't been on AWS for a while but loved the service when I was.